....this is what it looks like. Perfectly legal.

 

When dribbling the dribbler is not considered to be in the front court until BOTH feet AND the ball are in the front court.

 

The ball was never dribbled in the front court in this example so he is still in the backcourt. Looked odd but it was correct.

 

Remember, though, this ONLY applies when dribbling.

 

 

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Remember, though, this ONLY applies when dribbling.

 

 

 

Brings up an interesting point...looking at this play, what's the status of the ball once he's picked the dribble up? Looks like the ball last touched in the back court, and then he pivots his second foot into the front court. Could he pivot the foot back again? My initial thought is no, that the ball (once the dribble has been used) is now "located" where both feet are.

Question. Is there a 10 sec backcourt violation in the womens game?

Question. Is there a 10 sec backcourt violation in the womens game?

 

No.

Brings up an interesting point...looking at this play, what's the status of the ball once he's picked the dribble up? Looks like the ball last touched in the back court, and then he pivots his second foot into the front court. Could he pivot the foot back again? My initial thought is no, that the ball (once the dribble has been used) is now "located" where both feet are.

 

Once the dribble has ended the location of the ball is the location of the feet.

 

So in your example he could not step back even though the ball never physically touched the front court.

Brings up an interesting point...looking at this play, what's the status of the ball once he's picked the dribble up? Looks like the ball last touched in the back court, and then he pivots his second foot into the front court. Could he pivot the foot back again? My initial thought is no, that the ball (once the dribble has been used) is now "located" where both feet are.

 

Both feet were over but ball was not. Ball was still in backcourt when the left foot moved back across the line while dribbling. Then he plants the right foot as the pivot and pull left foot and ball into the front court. So it looks like right call.

 

Depending on angle its easy to see why coach was somewhat upset. Its about as close a play as possible in that situation.

Wouldn't this be easier to call if they just said anything that crosses the line makes it over and anything that crosses back would then be a violation?

....this is what it looks like. Perfectly legal.

 

When dribbling the dribbler is not considered to be in the front court until BOTH feet AND the ball are in the front court.

 

The ball was never dribbled in the front court in this example so he is still in the backcourt. Looked odd but it was correct.

 

Remember, though, this ONLY applies when dribbling.

 

 

Thanks, Clyde. I was confused on that last night. So he turned around and was holding the ball and put only 1 foot in the backcourt.

Wouldn't this be easier to call if they just said anything that crosses the line makes it over and anything that crosses back would then be a violation?

 

 

What does "makes it over" mean?

What does "makes it over" mean?

 

I don't know. Kind of like the Supreme Court with pornography, "I'll know it when I see it." :lol2:

I don't know. Kind of like the Supreme Court with pornography, "I'll know it when I see it." :lol2:

 

Man, you don't want that list added to the judgement calls refs have to make.

 

Ball location is part of many rules. For example, if the ball is in the backcourt and the count is getting close to 10 it's still a violation if the ball has "crossed" over halfcourt but is still in the air at 10. The ball is not in the frontcourt until it touches a person in the frontcourt or touches the floor in the frontcourt. One less judgement call for the officials.

Both feet were over but ball was not. Ball was still in backcourt when the left foot moved back across the line while dribbling. Then he plants the right foot as the pivot and pull left foot and ball into the front court. So it looks like right call.

 

Depending on angle its easy to see why coach was somewhat upset. Its about as close a play as possible in that situation.

 

Oh, I absolutely agree with the call. No doubt about it. I was just going off Clyde's last comment about how it applied only while dribbling.

Ball location is part of many rules. For example, if the ball is in the backcourt and the count is getting close to 10 it's still a violation if the ball has "crossed" over halfcourt but is still in the air at 10. The ball is not in the frontcourt until it touches a person in the frontcourt or touches the floor in the frontcourt. One less judgement call for the officials.

 

I have never really thought about this before. But, looking at a similar type of situation where maybe one foot remains in the backcourt, are you saying the 10 count stops if a player dribbles it in the front court, but is still technically able to come back into the backcourt because of the two feet and the ball rule?

I have never really thought about this before. But, looking at a similar type of situation where maybe one foot remains in the backcourt, are you saying the 10 count stops if a player dribbles it in the front court, but is still technically able to come back into the backcourt because of the two feet and the ball rule?

 

10 second count would not stop if dribbling. Not in frontcourt while dribbling (key) until all 3 have touched front court.

 

The "or touches the floor" comment assumes it was a pass in flight.

UNI (coaches, players, fans) absolutely lost their minds over this last night, and it was an easy call to make (or not make in this instance). I was actually surprised at how UNI's coach acted about it.