You mention public schools. This prison situation would be like if a private company was helping writing guidelines for passing onto the next grade where said private company and school system would profit from a kid failing and repeating a grade.

 

Yep it sure would be like that.

 

So do Private schools (Which are in their own right a Private Company) do that to keep that big tuitions coming in an extra year or two?

Yep it sure would be like that.

 

So do Private schools (Which are in their own right a Private Company) do that to keep that big tuitions coming in an extra year or two?

 

No.

Yep it sure would be like that.

 

So do Private schools (Which are in their own right a Private Company) do that to keep that big tuitions coming in an extra year or two?

 

No, they don't but the parent involvement in their child's education is at a much higher percentage than public schools, sad but true. Also, if I invest 10K a year for the school, it does change the mindset.

If people of whatever color or economic background don't commit 3 felonies 3 strikes never becomes an issue.

 

So, just for poops and giggles, say your son got busted for having a joint three times. That's 15-20 years. Is that real justice?

Every case I've ever seen in person where someone got a fine they were given several months or even a year to pay it. If they couldn't pay in many cases they were able to work it off.

 

One group that is filling our jails currently are "Dead Beat Dads" that don't pay their child support. It is a felony not to pay and the local jails have many in there for just that thing. I know our local dept returns people that are arrested in other states and counties because they have local warrants, the vast majority of these warrants are for failure to pay child support. I guess my question on that would be, should dead beat dads be put in jail or just let them go on not fulfilling their court ordered support for their children?

 

FWIW no one is making money from someone just sitting in jail because they can't bond out or are awaiting trial. State doesn't start paying the jail until there is a conviction. So it is in the jail and counties best interest financially to get people out as fast as possible after arrest while they await trial.

 

If the deadbeat dad isn't paying his child support, what's the benefit of putting him in jail? He's not going to make the money to play catch-up while incarcerated, and once he gets out, he's essentially unemployable. What good did it do to put him in jail? What lesson did he learn?

So, just for poops and giggles, say your son got busted for having a joint three times. That's 15-20 years. Is that real justice?

 

Serious question, what state is having a joint a felony?

Serious question, what state is having a joint a felony?

 

I believe Louisiana is the one Clyde posted a link about earlier in here.

I believe Louisiana is the one Clyde posted a link about earlier in here.

 

And that's still the law on this day?

We have a certain group of mentally ill people that we have hospitalized both short term, and long term for years. Their case managers find them housing and set up doctors appointments, even willing to pick them up.

 

Unfortunately, this particular group NEVER follows up and stops taking their meds. They go out and prostitute themselves, do drugs, get in fights, rob people, etc. Many of our patients revolve between the streets, jail, and the hospital. This costs hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars every year, not to mention the frustration of dozens of people who try to put a good plan in place.

 

Some of our patients are so violent, I am happy when I hear they are in jail. We have had staff members assaulted and then we send them to jail ourselves.

 

Some people will never accept help no matter what. I wish I knew the answer to this. Clearly jail is not the best option, but is is often the safest.

Maybe we should all move to Montana. Evidently they want to arrest anyone wearing tight clothing.

We have a certain group of mentally ill people that we have hospitalized both short term, and long term for years. Their case managers find them housing and set up doctors appointments, even willing to pick them up.

 

Unfortunately, this particular group NEVER follows up and stops taking their meds. They go out and prostitute themselves, do drugs, get in fights, rob people, etc. Many of our patients revolve between the streets, jail, and the hospital. This costs hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars every year, not to mention the frustration of dozens of people who try to put a good plan in place.

 

Some of our patients are so violent, I am happy when I hear they are in jail. We have had staff members assaulted and then we send them to jail ourselves.

 

Some people will never accept help no matter what. I wish I knew the answer to this. Clearly jail is not the best option, but is is often the safest.

 

Great points.

 

Politics and money aside there are so many people out there that are dangerous to the rest of us for various reasons I don't know where we can put them besides jail.

 

I am all ears?

So, just for poops and giggles, say your son got busted for having a joint three times. That's 15-20 years. Is that real justice?

Why does his son continue to break the law? Quit walking around with a joint in your pocket already. If his son is dumb enough to repeatedly get arrested for the same thing maybe he deserves to spend an extended amount of time in prison. And no I don't think someone needs to go to prison for 20 years for a joint. But good lord, how about people quit breaking the freaking law.

 

So, just for poops and giggles, say your son got busted for having a joint three times. That's 15-20 years. Is that real justice?

 

That's not 3 felonies... its 3 misdemeanors... fine and maybe a week in jail at the most actually served.

That's not 3 felonies... its 3 misdemeanors... fine and maybe a week in jail at the most actually served.

 

As Clyde's link said, not in Louisiana...

 

If the deadbeat dad isn't paying his child support, what's the benefit of putting him in jail? He's not going to make the money to play catch-up while incarcerated, and once he gets out, he's essentially unemployable. What good did it do to put him in jail? What lesson did he learn?

 

I didn't say that was right or wrong, just stating that a lot more people than you would think are in jail for it. What would be the answer for dead beat dads?

 

If we are to be a country of law and order there has to be consequences for breaking laws.