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Cantrall Ratings shows Augusta no respect

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:no:This mornings Cantrall ratings in the Lex. Herald still have Augusta rated #11 in the 10th region despite having knocked off both Brossart and Paris to win the 10th Region All A championship. Big deal for a high school of 105 kids in grades 9-12. In fact the Panthers have beaten #5 Brossart by 2 in OT on a neutral court, #6 Scott by 4 on a neutral court, #7 Paris by 2 on a neutral court, and #8 Harrison by 8 on a neutral court. Lost to #1 Mason in Maysville by 11 (Cantrall rates them 24 points higher) and #2 Campbell Co. in Alexandria by 14 (Cantrall rates them 18 points higher).

 

Maysville newspaper today calls Panthers a team of destiny. Do not know about that, but will tell you they will play few teams with less talent than they; but, will never play a team with greater heart. Give Hinson a rested Panther team and they can challenge teams #1-4 in the 10th.

 

Interested in seeing what the Lit. Ratings look like in the Courier tomorrow. Will say Augusta gets a ton of respect on Bluegrass Preps.

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This mornings Cantrall ratings in the Lex. Herald still have Augusta rated #11 in the 10th region despite having knocked off both Brossart and Paris to win the 10th Region All A championship. Big deal for a high school of 105 kids in grades 9-12. In fact the Panthers have beaten #5 Brossart by 2 in OT on a neutral court, #6 Scott by 4 on a neutral court, #7 Paris by 2 on a neutral court, and #8 Harrison by 8 on a neutral court. Lost to #1 Mason in Maysville by 11 (Cantrall rates them 24 points higher) and #2 Campbell Co. in Alexandria by 14 (Cantrall rates them 18 points higher).

 

Maysville newspaper today calls Panthers a team of destiny. Do not know about that, but will tell you they will play few teams with less talent than they; but, will never play a team with greater heart. Give Hinson a rested Panther team and they can challenge teams #1-4 in the 10th.

 

Interested in seeing what the Lit. Ratings look like in the Courier tomorrow. Will say Augusta gets a ton of respect on Bluegrass Preps.

Come on man!!! Does anyone put any stock in the Cantrall ratings? I can tell in you in WKY we don't put any stock in it.

You'd be better off just ignoring those rankings.

:no:This mornings Cantrall ratings in the Lex. Herald still have Augusta rated #11 in the 10th region despite having knocked off both Brossart and Paris to win the 10th Region All A championship. Big deal for a high school of 105 kids in grades 9-12. In fact the Panthers have beaten #5 Brossart by 2 in OT on a neutral court, #6 Scott by 4 on a neutral court, #7 Paris by 2 on a neutral court, and #8 Harrison by 8 on a neutral court. Lost to #1 Mason in Maysville by 11 (Cantrall rates them 24 points higher) and #2 Campbell Co. in Alexandria by 14 (Cantrall rates them 18 points higher).

 

Maysville newspaper today calls Panthers a team of destiny. Do not know about that, but will tell you they will play few teams with less talent than they; but, will never play a team with greater heart. Give Hinson a rested Panther team and they can challenge teams #1-4 in the 10th.

 

Interested in seeing what the Lit. Ratings look like in the Courier tomorrow. Will say Augusta gets a ton of respect on Bluegrass Preps.

 

Augusta 2014/15 Kentucky High School Boys Basketball

 

How about Augusta's losses to 6-12 Iroquois, 8-11 Model, or 8-10 Pendleton County?

 

How about the small margin of victories against 6-11 St. Patrick (2 points), 8-11 Lloyd Memorial (6 points), or 6-13 Bracken County (3 points)?

 

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I put about as much stock in those as I do political polls. They mean nothing.

How does a computer show respect exactly? This is a rating based upon numbers.

 

Correct. No intangibles in most of these. Usually based on W/L, maybe point spread, opponents SOS, home vs away.

 

They make for interesting results. I don't think Dave or the Litkenhous ratings ever claim they are predicting who will win head-to-head.

 

The beauty of the story for Augusta is they, like every team, control their own destiny.

Rating systems are based on data from results. As the season goes further along and more data is entered as more results come in, then you'll get a more accurate measurement.

 

That being said, Augusta's season wont be defined on what their Cantrall, Litkenhous, MexPreps, or True Rank number is.

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Augusta 2014/15 Kentucky High School Boys Basketball

 

How about Augusta's losses to 6-12 Iroquois, 8-11 Model, or 8-10 Pendleton County?

 

All valid observations. As stated in other threads, the loss to both Iroquois and Model were both at the latter part of a 7 game in 10 day road stretch. When you only play 5, this brutal stretch sapped legs and heart. The Pendleton game was another road game that was very competitive and before Pendleton lost probably their most talented player for the season.

 

Key to Augusta is three's, free throws, limited turnovers and heart. Will struggle against size underneath and Owen Co.'s Williams could be too much of a force. Even saw this against St. Pat's Sticklin

 

The neat thing about this team is they give it their all when they step on the floor. 55 boys in entire highschool, with every player homegrown. Fundamentally sound, well coached; but, out-talented by almost every opponent. When they warm-up they look a little ragged; but when the whistle blows they answer the call.

All valid observations. As stated in other threads, the loss to both Iroquois and Model were both at the latter part of a 7 game in 10 day road stretch. When you only play 5, this brutal stretch sapped legs and heart. The Pendleton game was another road game that was very competitive and before Pendleton lost probably their most talented player for the season.

 

A computer cannot place a value on "sapped legs and heart".

I put about as much stock in those as I do political polls. They mean nothing.

 

I agree! They are a joke.

At the end of the day the those polls don't mean much but as an Augusta fan it would have been nice to see the Panthers move up with a couple impressive victories. But the numbers don't lie. There are a couple bad losses. I only say a couple because the loss to Pendleton County wasn't a bad loss based on the opponent, but based on how the Panthers played. And they have also had some victories by small margins over lesser opponents. But with a 15-6 record they have been better more often than they've been bad. So you can hope for better rankings for the Panthers but don't worry about them, they'll just keep playing.

Augusta 2014/15 Kentucky High School Boys Basketball

 

How about Augusta's losses to 6-12 Iroquois, 8-11 Model, or 8-10 Pendleton County?

 

All valid observations. As stated in other threads, the loss to both Iroquois and Model were both at the latter part of a 7 game in 10 day road stretch. When you only play 5, this brutal stretch sapped legs and heart. The Pendleton game was another road game that was very competitive and before Pendleton lost probably their most talented player for the season.

 

Key to Augusta is three's, free throws, limited turnovers and heart. Will struggle against size underneath and Owen Co.'s Williams could be too much of a force. Even saw this against St. Pat's Sticklin

 

The neat thing about this team is they give it their all when they step on the floor. 55 boys in entire highschool, with every player homegrown. Fundamentally sound, well coached; but, out-talented by almost every opponent. When they warm-up they look a little ragged; but when the whistle blows they answer the call.

 

Unless I misunderstood something at the All A final game Saturday night and not taking anything away from Coach Hinson or the Augusta team, I understood that Augusta's 3 top players were all transfers to the program and understood one was in 6th or 7th grade and two came in 8th grade. Again, not taking anything away from the win or the size of the school, but I don't consider that homegrown talent.

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