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Oneida Baptist 70 North Laurel 67

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OBI is better than usual and they played Clay tough at Clay earlier. but North has major issues. All the other kids have laid down from what I'm being told. That they don't want to play with Broughton and for the Coach that is allowing him to take over 40% of the teams shots. Major chemistry issues on that team.

 

Any word on Isaiah Collier's eligibility?

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Oneida should be competing for region titles every season.

 

I agree. What Rhodes got in trouble for at Cordia would be legal at Oneida Baptist. They are a private school with dorms and they take in students from all over the U.S. and also foreign countries. If they wanted they could literally build a powerhouse every year.

 

I used to do the PA and introductions of the lineups at our school's basketball games in the '70s and ' early '80s and I couldn't pronounce many of their players names. I had to have someone from their team pronounce them to me then I would write above the name in the score book how it sounded to me in my hillbilly English, lol. I recall one player that had a last name that had around 18 letters and didn't sound anything like it's spelling.

Vdaasdflasdfasdwery'adsfddf

 

(pronounced: SMIth)

I was told today by someone who is usually in the know when it comes to the khsaa and that they expect him to be ruled ineligible. And that North would have to put it in the courts. What crazy is the kid left a better team than where he's trying to go. And he would have been there stud. At North he will play 2nd fiddle to Broughton

Vdaasdflasdfasdwery'adsfddf

 

(pronounced: SMIth)

 

LOL

 

One syllable English names are the easiest. Smith, Jones, Green, Brock, Mays, Cook.....

By the way, when I was growing up in central Kentucky, if a kid got into some trouble at school (or outside of school) it wasn't uncommon for them to "go to Oneida." So it sometimes served as a type of behavioral intervention.

 

And while OBI has occasionally had good basketball and soccer teams it has never been a powerhouse. That really isn't the school's mission.

 

I am familiar with all of that and understand the same. Comment was more about the diversity of the school now versus what I had historically been familiar with.

I was told today by someone who is usually in the know when it comes to the khsaa and that they expect him to be ruled ineligible. And that North would have to put it in the courts. What crazy is the kid left a better team than where he's trying to go. And he would have been there stud. At North he will play 2nd fiddle to Broughton
I am hearing the ruling will be at 1 tomorrow. Its normally mailed and they would get it Monday but since its a holiday they are gonna read it over the phone tomorrow.

Wish the kid the best, I really felt thus kid could have had a nice career if he had stayed at one place. Hate to see him lose his senior season but sometimes you have to live with the consequences of your decisions

Wish the kid the best, I really felt thus kid could have had a nice career if he had stayed at one place. Hate to see him lose his senior season but sometimes you have to live with the consequences of your decisions

 

If ruled ineligible at North Laurel he can go back to Jackson County and play immediately.

As bad as the he left them i dont see that happening. He really burnt bridges with the way he left, according to Coach Parrot

To clear up any misconceptions about Oneida Baptist:

 

#1. It isn't purely a "reform" school. Yes, there are kids who'd enrolled in the past where going to OBI was a disciplinary measure for small trouble and/or a preventative measure for a kid who maybe didn't have the best circumstances that someone felt could have used a change of scenery. Some parents probably do send their kids there for a change of scenery as well, but that isn't always the worst thing either. From my own understanding, having grown up there, most of the "reform" aspect has been erased from the school and has been gone for quite some time, probably in large part due to the liability that they face when having kids of so many different ages living in the same dorms, etc. Even when it was there, it wasn't as if all, or even most, of the kids were trouble.

 

#2. The school has a fairly well respected ESL Program (English as a Second Language). There are affluent first generation Americans and/or foreign nationals who want to send their children there to learn English while going to an American high school. Just because we, as Kentuckians, might see some unfamiliar names that we can't pronounce well doesn't mean it's some broke kid from the gutter. There's actually a pretty interesting mix of demographics in the student population when you really get down to it.

 

#3. OBI is in no way recruiting, unless you call "recruiting" the same thing they've been doing by advertising their school through churches, etc. for the past however many years when they've been losing. Comparisons between OBI and a Cordia due to OBI's winning a game are just ludicrous. When OBI gets a kid who is good at basketball, it is purely by chance. I can promise you that I've never heard of them seeking out a kid who was a talented athlete despite living there practically all my life. I'd venture a guess that ~80+% of the student population has no ties to the area. There rest of them are either "staff kids" or "townies" (what the kids at OBI with no ties to the area affectionately call local kids who choose to go there instead of Clay County High School).

 

#4. If OBI were actually recruiting, you'd know it, and it wouldn't be because they beat North Laurel or Clay County (like they did a few years ago). They have an ideal set-up for bringing in kids, but that isn't the school's mission at all. As a school that brings in lots of kids, especially given the number of kids that they get from inner cities, there are sometimes kids who are really good at basketball. That's purely by chance and nothing else, and if you look at their record over time, you'll understand that.

I wish I could get the head coaching job at a school like Oneida.

I wish I could get the head coaching job at a school like Oneida.

 

Everyone says that, but actually, no, no you don't, well, unless lots has changed.

 

Say your star player does something that wouldn't even get detention at a public school, guess what, historically, the administration there doesn't care if he's Michael Jordan, he's getting punished.

 

You don't practice on the Lord's time, and chapel time, which there is a decent amount of, is all business.

 

You are also responsible for the kids 24/7. Life at the school isn't hell given what I've heard from kids who went there that I've known through the years, but they also have a lot of rules and those rules enforced pretty uniformly. Example, I've heard of a kid getting punished athletically for wearing a t-shirt that was too long.

Joker, I know all of what you said in your post is accurate.

The school that I attented for 12 years and taught at for another 30 years, Owsley County, is only 19 miles from Oneida (many mountain folk, my late parents in particular, pronounced it "O-nee-dee). We have played the Mountaineers in basketball and baseball as far back as I can remember. I have asked some of their different coaches and staff over the years why they don't occasionally try to locate a couple of 6'8 players and maybe a guard or two to go with them, because they have a perfect setup to do just that. I've always received the same answer: "That's not our mission. Our mission is Christ and education". Which I've always responded in a joking kind of way that what their mission is is fine but there's still plenty of talented Christian basketball players they could help, to go along with all the non-sport kids they serve. They always got a chuckle out of that.

"That'll never happen at OBI", was always the response.

 

I knew Coach Larry Gritton when he was there back in the '70s and '80s. He was a class act. One of the hardest working and nicest people you could ever meet. And he had some good teams, namely the Crawford and Franklin led team in the late '70s. Those two players were about 6'5 or 6'6 and had the bodies to go with their heights. Ben Franklin in particular was a stud player. I've seen him throw down thunderous dunks many times against my Owls.

 

Larry Gritton's son, Larry Jr, is now the principal at the school if I'm not mistaken. He was an excellent player in his own right. Led the state in free throw points and percentage one season. A lefty with a nice stroke on his shot.

 

By the way, OBI has won 6 state championships, but not in basketball. They were the UCLA in the sport of Fencing when it was a KHSAA sanctioned sport back in the day.

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