Is there really a difference between the two?

 

89 fires in Columbus on Monday Night. We've all seen videos in other cities of news vans turned over, cars set on fire, and other nonsense in the streets. And it happens everywhere, sometimes win or lose, even in Lexington.

 

Is there a difference between anger people rioting vs. drunk college kids destroying, or in their minds celebrating?

 

Just thought it might be an interesting discussion .

Is there really a difference between the two?

 

89 fires in Columbus on Monday Night. We've all seen videos in other cities of news vans turned over, cars set on fire, and other nonsense in the streets. And it happens everywhere, sometimes win or lose, even in Lexington.

 

Is there a difference between anger people rioting vs. drunk college kids destroying, or in their minds celebrating?

 

Just thought it might be an interesting discussion .

 

Drunk college kids destroying property are idiots.

 

People rioting and burning down buildings are idiots.

 

The only difference, IMO, is that I'd say a lot more damage was done in Ferguson (several businesses burnt completely down) and police were targeted in assaults, and attempted assaults (bottles, bricks etc. thrown at them). I'll admit I don't have any hard facts there, that's just based on what I've seen. I'm willing to listen if someone says otherwise.

 

Regardless, both are pretty stupid. I'll never understand why you would want to burn someone's car or business whether you are happy or mad about something.

Were many businesses looted in Columbus? I don't know.

 

I think Riots based on Rage are in the end more dangerous than sports celebrations. That said, there are opportunist in both crowds that look to take advantage and cause problems.

IMO no, if they are a threat to the public, eliminate the threat.

"Revelers," "celebrants," "fans" and "students."

 

These are some of the words the mainstream media used to describe the thousands of people who flooded the streets of Columbus, Ohio, last night, lighting 89 fires, vandalizing property and requiring the deployment of riot police after the Ohio State Buckeyes' football team won the National Championship.

 

The rhetoric is particularly striking given the responses of media outlets to past events. For instance, five months earlier a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, killed an unarmed teenager. Residents of that city, which is 67% black, took to the streets in protest, demanding accountability from a law enforcement apparatus that had disproportionately targeted them for years. One fire was lit, burning down a convenience store. Yet the media referred to the events in Ferguson as "riots," and their participants as "rioters." Meanwhile, the broader conversation around the incident shifted toward shaming these people, dismissing them as "thugs" and "savages" and criticizing them for "destroying their own communities."

 

One Tweet Shows the Hypocrisy of America's Reaction to White People Rioting at Ohio State - Mic

 

Not sure if that link will work... Posted from my phone.

Riots in Ferguson had nothing to do with being upset over the teen that was justifiably killed by the officer who was doing his job. It had to do with opportunistic looters and other lawbreaking citizens who stumbled upon a reason to pin their scummy behavior on.

Morons burning couches in Lexington or Columbus or anywhere else are not quite as prone to looting and stealing, but they should be held accountable nonetheless (not that the Ferguson lawbreakers were).

Riots in Ferguson had nothing to do with being upset over the teen that was justifiably killed by the officer who was doing his job. It had to do with opportunistic looters and other lawbreaking citizens who stumbled upon a reason to pin their scummy behavior on.

Morons burning couches in Lexington or Columbus or anywhere else are not quite as prone to looting and stealing, but they should be held accountable nonetheless (not that the Ferguson lawbreakers were).

 

Or, it was legitimately organic, borne out of years of crummy treatment, and the Brown shooting was just a spark to a powderkeg? Possibly the movement was hijacked after that?

 

The argument can be framed a number of ways. Maybe I, as a neutral observer to the mess, think of Columbus as a dangerous riot scene, the same way Lexington and Morgantown — and yes, even Louisville on occasion — frequently get after big sports events. Maybe from a distance they all look the same, especially with all the fires and beer bottles raining from the sky?

 

I mean, how different is burning a business down from torching or flipping a car? It's still somebody's property, at the end of the day. Is it less innocuous if a white person does it in a celebratory mood?

"Revelers," "celebrants," "fans" and "students."

 

These are some of the words the mainstream media used to describe the thousands of people who flooded the streets of Columbus, Ohio, last night, lighting 89 fires, vandalizing property and requiring the deployment of riot police after the Ohio State Buckeyes' football team won the National Championship.

 

The rhetoric is particularly striking given the responses of media outlets to past events. For instance, five months earlier a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, killed an unarmed teenager. Residents of that city, which is 67% black, took to the streets in protest, demanding accountability from a law enforcement apparatus that had disproportionately targeted them for years. One fire was lit, burning down a convenience store. Yet the media referred to the events in Ferguson as "riots," and their participants as "rioters." Meanwhile, the broader conversation around the incident shifted toward shaming these people, dismissing them as "thugs" and "savages" and criticizing them for "destroying their own communities."

 

One Tweet Shows the Hypocrisy of America's Reaction to White People Rioting at Ohio State - Mic

 

Not sure if that link will work... Posted from my phone.

 

Thanks Deuce. I'm not going to pretend that I came up with this thread topic on my own. I saw that link while I was working out on the elliptical and then started the thread. Was going to post it in here this morning.

Mob mentality has a life of its own, so there really isn't much of a difference in the intent of participants. It is what precipitates the explosion that defines the actual riot. The Ferguson protest was a result of both mistrust of authority and delusions of grandeur in terms of how life should be. The OSU riot was a giant party that exploded, which seems to happen every time a team wins a championship. I can understand the position of the people of Ferguson and understand why and how their protests evolved. I do not agree with destroying the city, but I can understand how it happend. I will NEVER understand what makes people storm the streets and set fires to celebrate winning a championship. NEVER. Those people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, just as those that looted in Ferguson.

The biggest difference I see between the two is the length of the riots. Riots after championship games are typically over in a few hours, the Ferguson riots went on for weeks.

Did any stores get looted? Or burnt all the way down in Columbus??

In Lexington from what I know from my son old couches were set a fire in middle of closed off streets with firemen and police standing by watching.

At least where he lives that’s how it went.