January 7, 201511 yr Author So the insurance industry is bad because some clumsy kids/adults get hurt sled riding on city property? I'll go back to the skate park deal. Do you have to sign a waiver of liability for all the broken limbs? What needs to happen is signs placed in those areas and say sled at your own risk. And local judges who acknowledge those signs and the inherent risk if you go.
January 7, 201511 yr I blame the city for paying people who get hurt on their own accord. Hell If you ain't got enough sense to not sled toward a road sign, tree or road then you shouldn't be Getting paid for something you were too stupid to not do.
January 7, 201511 yr What about the kids just playing in the park that run into trees? My son did it once when he was about nine playing tag, split his head open...man I should've hired a lawyer.
January 7, 201511 yr So the insurance industry is bad because some clumsy kids/adults get hurt sled riding on city property? No because lawyers get clumsy kids/adults to then sue city forcing insurance companies to make these decisions. If I got hurt at the park unless there was something tangibly wrong that the city did that caused it there is no way I should be able to sue. Allowing kids to play on a hill shouldn't be a litigious issue...got to love ambulance chasing lawyers.
January 7, 201511 yr So the insurance industry is bad because some clumsy kids/adults get hurt sled riding on city property? No, more because the racket — and the insurance industry is a racket, to be sure — has been allowed to become so powerful in society that it is able to dictate everything about our lives.
January 7, 201511 yr No, more because the racket — and the insurance industry is a racket, to be sure — has been allowed to become so powerful in society that it is able to dictate everything about our lives. In this case I disagree. If cities want to have city properly sled riding I am sure they could buy extra insurance and pass the cost through to the residents. If people like Doc complained too much I would put it on the ballot.
January 7, 201511 yr I'll go back to the skate park deal. Do you have to sign a waiver of liability for all the broken limbs? What needs to happen is signs placed in those areas and say sled at your own risk. And local judges who acknowledge those signs and the inherent risk if you go. I think some cities failed to think the whole skate park thing through. As some of you know I worked for a city that built one and us police officers privately talked about what idiots the city leaders were for doing it. They invested a fortune in prime real estate only to attract some rough people. And eventually some of those peeps will see $$$ and file suit. On a side note, most waivers like that aren't worth the paper they are written on and who knows what to expect when you are dealing with local judges.
January 7, 201511 yr No, more because the racket — and the insurance industry is a racket, to be sure — has been allowed to become so powerful in society that it is able to dictate everything about our lives. The city can allow sled riding as long as they are willing to pay the lawsuit costs. Or, they can pay more and be insured against those risks. Insurance isn't dictating anything, a suit happy population is.
January 7, 201511 yr The city can allow sled riding as long as they are willing to pay the lawsuit costs. Or, they can pay more and be insured against those risks. Insurance isn't dictating anything, a suit happy population is. I somewhat agree — but the population would never have gotten so lawsuit-happy in the first place if there wasn't a deep well of cash they could tap into with the insurance pools.
January 7, 201511 yr Author I think some cities failed to think the whole skate park thing through. As some of you know I worked for a city that built one and us police officers privately talked about what idiots the city leaders were for doing it. They invested a fortune in prime real estate only to attract some rough people. And eventually some of those peeps will see $$$ and file suit. On a side note, most waivers like that aren't worth the paper they are written on and who knows what to expect when you are dealing with local judges. Exactly, therein lies the problem.
January 7, 201511 yr I somewhat agree — but the population would never have gotten so lawsuit-happy in the first place if there wasn't a deep well of cash they could tap into with the insurance pools. Right, there would just be a bunch of bankrupt cities.
January 7, 201511 yr Author I somewhat agree — but the population would never have gotten so lawsuit-happy in the first place if there wasn't a deep well of cash they could tap into with the insurance pools. Insurance + judges + opportunistic lawyers = stupidity as the rule rather than the exception.
January 7, 201511 yr Right, there would just be a bunch of bankrupt cities. Or, a system of "you can't get blood from a turnip" might have arisen instead.
January 7, 201511 yr Or, a system of "you can't get blood from a turnip" might have arisen instead. Turnips have constant revenue streams.
January 7, 201511 yr Nothing is required to wear, to use the park. Which park are you talking about? A sign is all they need.
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