I know everyone has someone that they think should be on the list, but the AP voters forgot NKY exists. Three teams in the state finals from NKY and only two on the all-state team?

Just a quick glance indicates Caldwell County must have been the most talented team in history to not win a state championship (I counted seven players from Caldwell). Pulaski also had seven players... at least they won a title.

 

I know teams win titles, not players...... but "Come on Man." Watch some film of Bo Hebel from Highlands at left guard. He will again be a force next year.

Sam Murrer from covcath not even honorable mention. WOW.

It was posted on this site that Venneman was one of the seven finalists for Mr. Football.

 

A Mr. Football finalist is an HM player. A bit disconnected.

 

Not disagreeing, but things to consider:

 

1) Voter take care of "their area" first. Meaning a Pikeville voter (Appalachian News-Express paper or WMYT TV is going to vote for someone from Shelby Valley, Pikeville or Pike Central before he or she votes for a NKY kid).

2) Voters don't have unlimited votes. They're actually very few. You vote for either three WR or six.

3) There's a significant lack of NKY media presence. Which means far less votes. In EKY, for example, Pikeville has two (paper, TV station), Middlesboro has one, Harlan has one, Corbin has one, Paintsville has one, Somerset has one.

 

Bowling Green has at least two (WBKO TV, Daily News newspaper). Mayfield has two (Mayfield Messenger paper, Mayfield TV station). Same for Paducah.

 

WKY has a ton of votes (Henderson, Hopkinsville, Madisonville, Mayfield, Owensboro, Paducah and how you classify Bowling Green).

 

Part of NKY's lack of player representation goes hand-in-hand with its lack of Associated Press media members for NKY.

Not disagreeing, but things to consider:

 

1) Voter take care of "their area" first. Meaning a Pikeville voter (Appalachian News-Express paper or WMYT TV is going to vote for someone from Shelby Valley, Pikeville or Pike Central before he or she votes for a NKY kid).

2) Voters don't have unlimited votes. They're actually very few. You vote for either three WR or six.

3) There's a significant lack of NKY media presence. Which means far less votes. In EKY, for example, Pikeville has two (paper, TV station), Middlesboro has one, Harlan has one, Corbin has one, Paintsville has one, Somerset has one.

 

Bowling Green has at least two (WBKO TV, Daily News newspaper). Mayfield has two (Mayfield Messenger paper, Mayfield TV station). Same for Paducah.

 

WKY has a ton of votes (Henderson, Hopkinsville, Madisonville, Mayfield, Owensboro, Paducah and how you classify Bowling Green).

 

Part of NKY's lack of player representation goes hand-in-hand with its lack of Associated Press media members for NKY.

 

Then when does the real KY All State List come out? To your explanation, this is a "homer" list.

I am pretty sure there are no NKY members in the state AP.

Young and Veneman weren't snubbed. Both made honorable mention.

 

Which OL making first or second team do you want to knock off to make sure Young makes it?

 

Same for Venneman. Which WR needs to be demoted to make Venneman second team? Which receivers (plural) need to be knocked down to make Venneman first team?

 

 

 

How about all of them? or any of them?

 

Alex was one of seven finalists for Mr Football. That list included 3 QB's and 3 RB's. He was the only wide receiver.

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I am pretty sure there are no NKY members in the state AP.

 

You might be correct.

 

Couldn't recall how the TV stations and newspaper fell. My guess is Ohio, since they would have to pay twice (Ohio dues, Kentucky dues) to be considered KY.

 

And twice the dues don't get you twice the stuff.

 

Thus, NKY kids suffer.

I miscounted. Pulaski has nine, not seven. My mistake. I could see through my sour grapes.

Players had to be nominated to be voted on. If no one in the northern Kentucky area nominated anyone, then those players were not available for others to vote for. I saw that 24 AP members voted. Wished there were more, but it seems like AP membership is dwindling so that's probably a pretty good number.

Not disagreeing, but things to consider:

 

1) Voter take care of "their area" first. Meaning a Pikeville voter (Appalachian News-Express paper or WMYT TV is going to vote for someone from Shelby Valley, Pikeville or Pike Central before he or she votes for a NKY kid).

2) Voters don't have unlimited votes. They're actually very few. You vote for either three WR or six.

3) There's a significant lack of NKY media presence. Which means far less votes. In EKY, for example, Pikeville has two (paper, TV station), Middlesboro has one, Harlan has one, Corbin has one, Paintsville has one, Somerset has one.

 

Bowling Green has at least two (WBKO TV, Daily News newspaper). Mayfield has two (Mayfield Messenger paper, Mayfield TV station). Same for Paducah.

 

WKY has a ton of votes (Henderson, Hopkinsville, Madisonville, Mayfield, Owensboro, Paducah and how you classify Bowling Green).

 

Part of NKY's lack of player representation goes hand-in-hand with its lack of Associated Press media members for NKY.

 

 

Then call it what it is.

 

The 2014 Associated Press vote for whoever plays in your region team with the exception of N Ky because they have no AP outlet State Football Team.

Does this happen every year?

I know everyone has someone that they think should be on the list, but the AP voters forgot NKY exists. Three teams in the state finals from NKY and only two on the all-state team?

Just a quick glance indicates Caldwell County must have been the most talented team in history to not win a state championship (I counted seven players from Caldwell). Pulaski also had seven players... at least they won a title.

 

I know teams win titles, not players...... but "Come on Man." Watch some film of Bo Hebel from Highlands at left guard. He will again be a force next year.

Sam Murrer from covcath not even honorable mention. WOW.

 

Actually just six players from Caldwell County. The kid with the last name "Caldwell" doesn't count. :lol2:

Does this happen every year?

 

#Rhetorical

Reese Ryan didn't make the list at all. That's a joke.

Does this happen every year?

These threads turning into a big whine fest? Yes, every year.

Players had to be nominated to be voted on. If no one in the northern Kentucky area nominated anyone, then those players were not available for others to vote for. I saw that 24 AP members voted. Wished there were more, but it seems like AP membership is dwindling so that's probably a pretty good number.

 

You might want to check that.

 

2014: 24 votes

2013: 15 votes

2012: 15 votes

2011: 15 votes

 

2013

"LOUISVILLE — The 2013 Associated Press Kentucky High School All-State first and second teams, as selected by 15 media representatives from across the state:"

 

2012

The AP's 2012 Kentucky All-State Teams | College Football

"LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) — The 2012 Associated Press Kentucky High School All-State first and second teams, as selected by 15 media representatives from across the state:"

 

2011

http://www.wtvq.com/mostpopular/story/Kentucky-high-school-football-AP-All-State-teams/d/story/Uy6HndfB3Ey0gcDokUMmkw

"LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) - The 2011 Kentucky High School All-State first and second teams, as selected by 15 media representatives from across the state:"

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