IMO, the muddiness will go away now. The house would send bills to the senate and Harry Reid wouldn't allow a vote. I am hopeful that now, bills will be voted on and sent to the president. He will either veto or sign. We will find out quickly where the obstruction was coming from the past few years. Was it the Republicans or Harry Reid and the President? We shall soon find out.

 

Is it safe to assume the the immigration will now come to a vote? The simple fact is that if the immigration bill had been allowed to come to a vote, it would have passed and been signed into law. Most of the house bills would have been defeated in the Senate. Of the few that passed, most would have been vetoed.

Why wouldn't Harry Reid allow a vote if they had an immigration bill that would pass and be signed into law?

Is it safe to assume the the immigration will now come to a vote? The simple fact is that if the immigration bill had been allowed to come to a vote, it would have passed and been signed into law. Most of the house bills would have been defeated in the Senate. Of the few that passed, most would have been vetoed.

 

I hope so. Never know what they are going to do in Washington.

Cannot that be said for the arguments you listed?

 

 

Absolutely. That's my whole point of this thread. People from both sides get their talking points, their proof, their beliefs and discussion becomes useless. There is nothing any Obama supporter can say to someone who doesn't like Obama that is going to change their mind. Facts be damned. At the same time....what are facts? I'm not going to believe anything about Obama from people who don't like just like people who don't like him should believe anything from me.

 

Still want to have that discussion?

Right...ergo the FB post that you re-posted.

 

Exactly. We are all going to trust our own 'sources' so the 'truth' is always going to be distorted and lost.

 

I've read so many articles with so much conflicting information that I have no clue what is right or wrong so I'm just going to roll with dumb, blind loyalty. I like the fella and I hope he can gain some public favor somehow. That's about where I am at these days.

Figured as much. :lol2: Good, I would hate that I ticked you off. I just wasn't sure if this thread was starting to irritate you.

 

Nah, the only thing I'm ticked off about is that Mio's is closed. I loved that place.

Why wouldn't Harry Reid allow a vote if they had an immigration bill that would pass and be signed into law?

 

Um, it passed the Senate John Boener has refused to schedule a vote because it would pass, with almost all of the Democrats voting for it, but only enough Republicans to allow it to pass.

Exactly. We are all going to trust our own 'sources' so the 'truth' is always going to be distorted and lost.

 

I've read so many articles with so much conflicting information that I have no clue what is right or wrong so I'm just going to roll with dumb, blind loyalty. I like the fella and I hope he can gain some public favor somehow. That's about where I am at these days.

Gotcha. But for fun, I think I'm going to post some of my favorite Facebook memes, starting with this one.

 

RTS wins BGP best posts of the day !

Such a hater. :lol2:

Um, it passed the Senate John Boener has refused to schedule a vote because it would pass, with almost all of the Democrats voting for it, but only enough Republicans to allow it to pass.

 

So John is pulling a Harry? Interesting. That makes more sense.

Absolutely. That's my whole point of this thread. People from both sides get their talking points, their proof, their beliefs and discussion becomes useless. There is nothing any Obama supporter can say to someone who doesn't like Obama that is going to change their mind. Facts be damned. At the same time....what are facts? I'm not going to believe anything about Obama from people who don't like just like people who don't like him should believe anything from me.

 

Still want to have that discussion?

 

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