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In Defense of Obama

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Why? He's irrelevant, even I don't listen to him. See, this could be why you lean so heavy to the left, you're listening to the wrong people on the right. :D

 

Paul Krugman is a hateful useless idiot, I refuse to kill brain cells by listening to his drivel.

 

I think it's hilarious that you feel I lean so heavy to the left. It cracks me up! I read everything I can by anyone who writes. I don't usually even check what site it's from before I read something that catches my eye.

 

And even the most extreme have an opinion, and I'm interested in learning what makes them hold that opinion. I'm not necessarily interested in either side's actual opinion. I'm looking for the reasons WHY they form those opinions. That gives me insight I may not have, and makes me think about things in ways I may not have considered before. It CAN change my own opinion. But most times, not. But I do at LEAST have an understanding of WHY they hold their opinions and a respect for their opinions because of that.

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When I saw the thread title I knew you were in deep doo-doo.

 

:D

 

I love Obama and always will. This damn liberal media makes it hard to find articles that praise him effusively.

:D

 

I love Obama and always will. This damn liberal media makes it hard to find articles that praise him effusively.

 

PP92, can you tell me why you love Obama? I am serious. So you know, I think he is the worst president of my lifetime (and I am in my early 50's). I am not trying to be combative here. I am asking with an open mind because I think your posts are typically well thought out.

 

I am surprised that you are not familiar with Krugman. I was an economic major in college so I do think I know a little about the subject and I think he is an absolute disgrace to economists everywhere. Lipton Bash's post #9 above sums up my feelings about him completely. But back to Obama...why do you love him? What has he done to earn your love?

:D

 

I love Obama and always will. This damn liberal media makes it hard to find articles that praise him effusively.

 

They will always be able to count on Krugman! And maybe Chris Matthews.

:D

 

I love Obama and always will. This damn liberal media makes it hard to find articles that praise him effusively.

 

Me too. I think we should change the constitution and make him Czar.

I think it's hilarious that you feel I lean so heavy to the left. It cracks me up! I read everything I can by anyone who writes. I don't usually even check what site it's from before I read something that catches my eye.

 

And even the most extreme have an opinion, and I'm interested in learning what makes them hold that opinion. I'm not necessarily interested in either side's actual opinion. I'm looking for the reasons WHY they form those opinions. That gives me insight I may not have, and makes me think about things in ways I may not have considered before. It CAN change my own opinion. But most times, not. But I do at LEAST have an understanding of WHY they hold their opinions and a respect for their opinions because of that.

I find it funny that you think you don't. It's not a big deal, but your posts show which way you lean, as do mine. It's almost as though you're ashamed of it. :lol2:

 

It doesn't take long, at least for most people, to sort out overly biased hacks that write political blogs or articles these days, on either side. How can a small minded, partisan, buffoon that themselves refuses to listen to the most fair or open minded opinion from someone that's not of their their political persuasion give you (or anyone for that matter) any insight in any way, shape or form? You're telling me you respect someone that hates you because you're ideologically different than them? How have they earned your respect? I'm not buying it.

I can't comment until after I have read the article which won't be until this evening.

I find it funny that you think you don't. It's not a big deal, but your posts show which way you lean, as do mine. It's almost as though you're ashamed of it. :lol2:

 

It doesn't take long, at least for most people, to sort out overly biased hacks that write political blogs or articles these days, on either side. How can a small minded, partisan, buffoon that themselves refuses to listen to the most fair or open minded opinion from someone that's not of their their political persuasion give you (or anyone for that matter) any insight in any way, shape or form? You're telling me you respect someone that hates you because you're ideologically different than them? How have they earned your respect? I'm not buying it.

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

 

I can respect opinions when I understand the logic used to arrive at the opinion. I struggle with opinions that are reached without logic, only reaction.

 

And, I would hope (idealistically) that no one "hates" me for my opinion(s). However, I guess there are those who do. I certainly don't "hate" anyone, although there are those I prefer not to engage with because of their attitude, not their opinion.

I can't comment until after I have read the article which won't be until this evening.

 

Thank you.

 

At the least, you're not dismissing it out of hand.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

 

I can respect opinions when I understand the logic used to arrive at the opinion. I struggle with opinions that are reached without logic, only reaction.

 

And, I would hope (idealistically) that no one "hates" me for my opinion(s). However, I guess there are those who do. I certainly don't "hate" anyone, although there are those I prefer not to engage with because of their attitude, not their opinion.

I can respect opinions when I understand the logic used to arrive at the opinion as well. With guys like Krugman, there is no logic. He's just a liberal that thinks it's the only way to be, very closed minded.

 

I didn't mean you personally, I mean't the collective you.

 

I certainly don't "hate" anyone, although there are those I prefer not to engage with because of their attitude, not their opinion.

 

In a nutshell, that's why I would think you'd oppose someone like Krugman.

Thank you.

 

At the least, you're not dismissing it out of hand.

Do you dismiss the KKK? Hateful an closed minded is hateful and closed minded. I know full well both you and rockmom have dismissed things people have said, likely even on here. Everyone does at sometime or another and more often likely when it comes to politics. But hey, it makes you look good to act otherwise, so run with it.

A couple things I have to mention to rockmom and mcpapa.

 

1. You both sound in this thread like I've never given Paul Krugman a chance, a read or a listen to. So inaccurate and incorrect. I've listened to him debate others on talk shows, I've read more of his articles then I care to remember and unfortunately I've seen him on all too many news shows. It's not like I'm not well aware how perspicuous he is in his partisanship so please, save the "dismissing out of hand" or similar nonsense.

 

2. I find it so interesting and entertaining that we have had several posters over the years and one currently that have dismissed and dismisses anything and everything that comes from Fox News, Hannity, Limbaugh or any Conservative site and I've not once seen either of you call them out. For the life of me, I can't understand why that might be... :sarcastic:

A couple things I have to mention to rockmom and mcpapa.

 

1. You both sound in this thread like I've never given Paul Krugman a chance, a read or a listen to. So inaccurate and incorrect. I've listened to him debate others on talk shows, I've read more of his articles then I care to remember and unfortunately I've seen him on all too many news shows. It's not like I'm not well aware how perspicuous he is in his partisanship so please, save the "dismissing out of hand" or similar nonsense.

 

2. I find it so interesting and entertaining that we have had several posters over the years and one currently that have dismissed and dismisses anything and everything that comes from Fox News, Hannity, Limbaugh or any Conservative site and I've not once seen either of you call them out. For the life of me, I can't understand why that might be... :sarcastic:

 

It's just more fun to get your goat. :D

It's just more fun to get your goat. :D
:lol2: Trying to would be the correct term. I just call'em as I see'em, some have a problem with that. I know it's not exactly popular these days.
A couple things I have to mention to rockmom and mcpapa.

 

1. You both sound in this thread like I've never given Paul Krugman a chance, a read or a listen to. So inaccurate and incorrect. I've listened to him debate others on talk shows, I've read more of his articles then I care to remember and unfortunately I've seen him on all too many news shows. It's not like I'm not well aware how perspicuous he is in his partisanship so please, save the "dismissing out of hand" or similar nonsense.

 

2. I find it so interesting and entertaining that we have had several posters over the years and one currently that have dismissed and dismisses anything and everything that comes from Fox News, Hannity, Limbaugh or any Conservative site and I've not once seen either of you call them out. For the life of me, I can't understand why that might be... :sarcastic:

 

Probably got lost amongst all those from the other side of the aisle.:lol:

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