Honesty time for a minute, RM. Bob Dylan's voice has always been horrible, even before the motorcycle accident that is incorrectly blamed for his terrible delivery. It took me 27 years before I could appreciate Dylan.

 

Tom Waits, well, I'm still trying to get used to his voice. Great songwriter, terrible singer.

 

There it is... forgot all about Tom Waits....

 

Cannot do the voice, and because of it can't say whether or not he's a good song writer simply because I can't get past his God awful voice.

 

Very little chance that I will ever see his so called brilliance unless someone with a decent voice covers him to show me otherwise.

 

Seriously never understood the hype.

Honesty time for a minute, RM. Bob Dylan's voice has always been horrible, even before the motorcycle accident that is incorrectly blamed for his terrible delivery. It took me 27 years before I could appreciate Dylan.

 

Tom Waits, well, I'm still trying to get used to his voice. Great songwriter, terrible singer.

 

I admit I may be in the minority, but I love Dylan. I admittedly like distinctive voices, and I am drawn to those performers that are instantly recognizable.

Never bought into the Janis Joplin hype. She annoyed me.

Yes!

Let's be honest here. The quality of Gramm's output declined long before 1997. He started sucking a good decade+ before his illness.

 

Growing up a Foreigner fan starting in my early teens, and following them through their first 5 releases, and Lou's 1st solo (which other than the one hit "Midnight Blue", I can't even remember what was on it), by the time their 6th release "Inside Information" came out in 1987 I bought it, but didn't spend much time with it because I was on to other bands and different music scenes that it wasn't really holding my interest too much at the time. I recall a couple of its hits, but not much else.

 

Until you mentioned here that his voice started failing years before his illness arrived, my knowledge of the exact timeline was foggy at best.

 

Looking it up it says that in 1997 he had his tumor issues. I never even had ever listened to the Mr. Moonlight release (which just for kicks I'm listening to now on Youtube to see what I think of it).

 

I'm almost towards the end of it and although it's not exactly rocking my world, his voice sounds pretty consistent to what I would expect from him. It's not a terrible release as it's pretty listenable, and Lou's voice sounds ok.

 

In 1998 I saw him with Foreigner at Riverbend in Cincinnati open for Journey. It's when Journey actually put on a really good show with their replacement singer Steve Augeri that stunned the crowd that wasn't expecting much.

 

I was surprised too because I enjoyed Journey even though like I had earlier mentioned, I wasn't really listening to much of that stuff from my youth anymore, and was on to other stuff. It was an unexpected good time for me and reminded me that much of the stuff from my past still had merit and sounded pretty good when revisited, and that I shouldn't completely throw it all away.

 

With that said, Lou was painful to listen to that evening and was the initial reason I attended the show in the first place. I knew nothing of his illness and was dumbfounded at how awful he sounded. It wasn't until much later that I had heard what was up with him.

 

However to get to the point, if Mr. Moonlight came out in 1994 and his illness started in 1997, he didn't sound too bad on Mr. Moonlight (of course the studio can do wonders), and it's not at all painful for me to listen to.

 

Live shows during that period might've been a completely different story before his illness, but I can't say. Throughout his career he did have a tone that subjected him to often straining where it could be either hit or miss with him.

 

I don't know if I would go as far as saying that his voice was shot by 1987, but even if it was starting to be more strained, his illness certainly didn't help matters much.

 

I don't blame him for wanting to still use his name and try for a triumphant return, but I highly doubt that he's ever really gonna sound good again. He needs to be careful or else he might just end up embarrassing himself and be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

I'm with you.

If you think Axl Rose and Ted Nugent have great voices, you really need to have your ears checked. The other three aren't much better, but I at least get your reason for liking them.

I admit I may be in the minority, but I love Dylan. I admittedly like distinctive voices, and I am drawn to those performers that are instantly recognizable.

You must be just mesmerized by Yoko Ono, Slim Whitman and Tiny Tim. :lol2:

Just 2 come to mind Bob Dylan and Elvis Presley

Just 2 come to mind Bob Dylan and Elvis Presley

Hmm, unusual to hear one call Elvis one of the worst singers. I'm not a fan really, just don't know if I've ever heard someone lump him in that category. Interesting choice, KyTmcNcc. What songs of his grate on your nerves the most?

Hmm, unusual to hear one call Elvis one of the worst singers. I'm not a fan really, just don't know if I've ever heard someone lump him in that category. Interesting choice, KyTmcNcc. What songs of his grate on your nerves the most?

All of them I think he was very very overrated and undertalented ,

Any Death Metal growl from any unintelligible lead "singer" from the entire genre. Thought that it was ridiculous when I first heard the sound of it, and even more so that anyone would consider mocking it.

 

Maybe you don't like the sound, which is fair because I don't care for it either, but I would be careful lumping the singers into the worst vocalists class. A lot of Slip Knots music falls into the "growl" catagory and Cory Taylor is a heck of singer.

All of them I think he was very very overrated and undertalented ,

The King of Rock and Roll? Well, musical taste is in the ear of the beholder, so I can't fault you. Again, I'm not really a fan, but his singing never bothered me.

The King of Rock and Roll? Well, musical taste is in the ear of the beholder, so I can't fault you. Again, I'm not really a fan, but his singing never bothered me.

Maybe I had the Conrad Birdie syndrome also I thought that he mumbled through a lot of his songs

Maybe you don't like the sound, which is fair because I don't care for it either, but I would be careful lumping the singers into the worst vocalists class. A lot of Slip Knots music falls into the "growl" catagory and Cory Taylor is a heck of singer.

 

"Unintelligible" and "growl" were my key words here. I'm gonna assume you know the sound I'm referring to. With Cory there's a more controlled understandable sound coming from him, so he's not exactly the type I was talking about.

 

I had my metal phase and can still dig the energy once in a while, but by the time Slipknot popped onto the scene I had already largely drifted from it, and there's been very little about it, especially if it's over-the-top annoying and difficult to decipher, that has drawn me back to it.

 

It could no longer be my steady diet as my taste are varied and far reaching. It got to the point with me that a riff, a scream, a growl, and a lightening fast guitar solo was not the only thing that defined music for me anymore.

 

I drifted too from keeping much of an eye on even the metal bands that I used to follow, only taking a quick peek at them once in awhile to see if I could still care, which most of the time I couldn't.

 

Probably only a couple of times a year I get into a metal mood and revisit it, and maybe I'm just getting old, because it's not really holding my interest much anymore like it once did. Louder, faster, harder and extreme was sorta the goal at one brief moment in my life, but not anymore.

 

That's not really a knock on metal or anyone who enjoys it. It's just not where I'm at anymore, and haven't been for quite a while.

My wife nominates Neil Young.

Growing up a Foreigner fan starting in my early teens, and following them through their first 5 releases, and Lou's 1st solo (which other than the one hit "Midnight Blue", I can't even remember what was on it), by the time their 6th release "Inside Information" came out in 1987 I bought it, but didn't spend much time with it because I was on to other bands and different music scenes that it wasn't really holding my interest too much at the time. I recall a couple of its hits, but not much else.

 

Until you mentioned here that his voice started failing years before his illness arrived, my knowledge of the exact timeline was foggy at best.

 

Looking it up it says that in 1997 he had his tumor issues. I never even had ever listened to the Mr. Moonlight release (which just for kicks I'm listening to now on Youtube to see what I think of it).

 

I'm almost towards the end of it and although it's not exactly rocking my world, his voice sounds pretty consistent to what I would expect from him. It's not a terrible release as it's pretty listenable, and Lou's voice sounds ok.

 

In 1998 I saw him with Foreigner at Riverbend in Cincinnati open for Journey. It's when Journey actually put on a really good show with their replacement singer Steve Augeri that stunned the crowd that wasn't expecting much.

 

I was surprised too because I enjoyed Journey even though like I had earlier mentioned, I wasn't really listening to much of that stuff from my youth anymore, and was on to other stuff. It was an unexpected good time for me and reminded me that much of the stuff from my past still had merit and sounded pretty good when revisited, and that I shouldn't completely throw it all away.

 

With that said, Lou was painful to listen to that evening and was the initial reason I attended the show in the first place. I knew nothing of his illness and was dumbfounded at how awful he sounded. It wasn't until much later that I had heard what was up with him.

 

However to get to the point, if Mr. Moonlight came out in 1994 and his illness started in 1997, he didn't sound too bad on Mr. Moonlight (of course the studio can do wonders), and it's not at all painful for me to listen to.

 

Live shows during that period might've been a completely different story before his illness, but I can't say. Throughout his career he did have a tone that subjected him to often straining where it could be either hit or miss with him.

 

I don't know if I would go as far as saying that his voice was shot by 1987, but even if it was starting to be more strained, his illness certainly didn't help matters much.

 

I don't blame him for wanting to still use his name and try for a triumphant return, but I highly doubt that he's ever really gonna sound good again. He needs to be careful or else he might just end up embarrassing himself and be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

 

Oh no, don't misunderstand. I'm not suggesting his voice went bad a decade before. I was saying the quality of the music he was involved in was not so good. Let's be honest: the "Agent Provocatuer" record and those after it don't even seem like they're from the same band as the first four records.