Yeah but then you guys (Lawyers) would be trying to figure out how to sue them everyday to get that Million Dollars. :lol2:

 

Exactly. I was hoping that came through in what I wrote.

 

Honestly, one of the best expert witnesses I've ever seen was a police officer in San Antonio. That comes out of doctors, lawyers, everyone.

 

I've also seen people who weren't qualified to be police officers make horrendous decisions while acting in their official capacity.

 

Honestly, I kind of do and don't understand some of the stuff when it comes to the criticism of the job. I've had more than 1 or 2 F-bombs dropped on me by a supervisor when it came to a screw up at work.

 

I think it's fair to say that as a whole, an attorney or someone who works in that field (or just knows someone who does) won't get riled up when someone is criticizing a different lawyer that they've never met.

Butt Hurt? (Sounds like you've been viewing that "Other" site)...there seem to be two groups that take it more seriously than the rest...Law Enforcement and the Military. They are forced to make life and death decisions in a split second and then have to have each and every decision second guessed a million times by people that weren't there or in that situation.

 

Yes they need to be accountable, but they take their job very seriously and don't take it lightly like many feel that they do. A officers worst nightmare is to injure or kill someone unjustly. Contrary to popular belief by many, they don't wake up looking to harass someone or shoot them.

 

If Cameras were allowed in Hospitals Doctors and Nurses would be seconded guessed as much or more, but they have effectively shut that out of their profession...even though their mistakes kill many times the number of people that Law Enforcement does.

 

Inept defense by attorneys allows innocent people to go to prison every day, yet the lawyers rarely get the blame. Blame normally falls back on the police that investigated the crime and turned their findings over to an (Prosecuting) attorney.

Butt Hurt? (Sounds like you've been viewing that "Other" site)...there seem to be two groups that take it more seriously than the rest...Law Enforcement and the Military. They are forced to make life and death decisions in a split second and then have to have each and every decision second guessed a million times by people that weren't there or in that situation.

 

Yes they need to be accountable, but they take their job very seriously and don't take it lightly like many feel that they do. A officers worst nightmare is to injure or kill someone unjustly. Contrary to popular belief by many, they don't wake up looking to harass someone or shoot them.

 

If Cameras were allowed in Hospitals Doctors and Nurses would be seconded guessed as much or more, but they have effectively shut that out of their profession...even though their mistakes kill many times the number of people that Law Enforcement does.

 

Inept defense by attorneys allows innocent people to go to prison every day, yet the lawyers rarely get the blame. Blame normally falls back on the police that investigated the crime and turned their findings over to an (Prosecuting) attorney.

 

That's fair.

 

When I made the butt-hurt comment, I wasn't really talking about this site or any message board in particular. Just in general when you look at the feedback on a controversial issue.

 

I've heard people say all kinds of things about attorneys. When someone is like, "how does so and so sleep at night?", I think "with their head on a pillow?", not, "how dare you...".

Exactly. I was hoping that came through in what I wrote.

 

Honestly, one of the best expert witnesses I've ever seen was a police officer in San Antonio. That comes out of doctors, lawyers, everyone.

 

I've also seen people who weren't qualified to be police officers make horrendous decisions while acting in their official capacity.

 

Honestly, I kind of do and don't understand some of the stuff when it comes to the criticism of the job.

 

People are in every profession that shouldn't be, I agree.

 

There are 800,000 give or take Law Enforcement Officers in this country...even if we here of an officer losing his cool once a day in the news everyday, it would be an infinitesimal amount of the total. There seems to be a news story or blog report about once a week about someone upset about the actions of a police officer, even if it's twice a week that's 100 per year.

 

My point is that it is easy to go nuts every time an officer is called out in the press, but 99.99% of the Officers are out there doing a good job.

I'd imagine that with police officers, most of the "fear factor" on part of the public is the fact that you don't really choose which officers you'll interact with. People can avoid bad doctors, bad lawyers, etc., but a run-in with a bad officer can leave someone with a police record for the rest of their life despite the fact that they haven't done anything wrong. It hasn't happened to me personally or anything, but I'd imagine that it can be pretty damaging to people, especially ones who've worked hard and maintained a reputation over their lifetime.

 

Run-into a bad doctor, you go see another one or if you have the means to do so, you don't go to a doctor until they've built a reputation over time. Same for most other professions. I'd guess that the fear of how a random interaction could end up is what motivates a lot of people's concern. I've seen plenty of 60 Minutes type stories on ER's who do shoddy work or a Judge taking kickbacks to send kids to a private juvenile facility. Those are types of medical and legal things that were more "luck of the draw" and "random" than the other situations I've provided.

 

Also to clarify on a point I've alluded to in the past, I think that the whole oversight on police thing is somewhat overblown given unionization and organizations like the Fraternal Order of Police (which has a lot of weight and stroke). As someone who works in other legal fields, I do so knowing that if I screw up, I'm paying out of my own pocket for an attorney, etc. and don't really have an organization protecting my interest that will be there to fight for me. Preparing tax documents that will be sent and analyzed by the IRS, I felt I didn't really have a Fraternal Order of Tax Attorneys who'd back me if there was a good faith mistake or something like that.

 

I think you could make a solid argument that the F.O.P. is there because there is so much criticism and backlash as compared to other entities that don't have those same concerns despite the fact that they may screw up too.

The "hate" that some people have for police is more than justified, whether you agree with it or not.

In general? I disagree. That would be no different than hating any given race based on the actions of a select small percentage.

In general? I disagree. That would be no different than hating any given race based on the actions of a select small percentage.

 

That's why I said "some people."

That's why I said "some people."

I certainly wouldn't lump you in with that crowd. I do know several people that absolutely hate all cops. I can tell you, they have no one but themselves to blame. Seems they go out of their way to show disrespect to police and, somehow, they don't even recognize it in themselves.

I certainly wouldn't lump you in with that crowd. I do know several people that absolutely hate all cops. I can tell you, they have no one but themselves to blame. Seems they go out of their way to show disrespect to police and, somehow, they don't even recognize it in themselves.

 

I will never disrespect police. I do have my guard up around them sometimes, but I always try to be as non-confrontational as possible, because I don't want any trouble. I've met the people that hate cops, and like you said, they cause their own problems with dealing with the police. It's just frustrating, more than anything. I've never been in a lick of trouble my entire life, yet I've been made to feel like a criminal on more than one occasion, for absolutely no reason.

I think police should profile.

 

The FBI does it, if a kid gets kidnapped or molested the profile is usually a white guy.

 

If a bomb goes off on an airplane, its usually a muslim

 

But the type of profiling you are talking about is different than mine.

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Great Story!

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Has talked over 200 people from jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.

Let's say someone has had five interactions with police in their life time... That can be traffic stops, on the street, busting a party, whatever... If 4 of those 5 have been a negative experience, how is it NOT justified to feel that way?

 

I've been pulled over block from my house at 2am when I was 17 and asked if we were "Smoking drugs" and ordered out of the car. He was trying to tell if I was drunk or high I suppose.

 

I've been the Co-Host of a party that the Sheriff came to and broke up...he could have taken most of us to jail but we were honest and didn't act like jerks...so we didn't go to jail.

 

I got a "Drag Racing Ticket" without ever speeding, spinning my wheels or crossing the center line. I did take off quickly and at the same rate as the car next to me, however. There are many times I deserved a ticket for drag racing and didn't get one but I didn't deserve one that night. It was a mess to get taken care of too, insurance got cancelled license suspended for a few weeks...a mess.

 

I was arrested once...not a story for BGP...but it was the week of my 21st Birthday...one cop was a butt hole to me another one was pretty cool.

 

I've had at least 3 speeding tickets that I've had to pay, two of which IMO I didn't deserve.

 

I got in a fight one night in Richmond and it was broken up by the police...it was broken up "Hard" as in slammed against a block wall.

 

All of that said, I didn't hate on the police...in every case there was something I could have done a little differently that wouldn't have brought me to their attention. Now at the time I wouldn't have admitted that I could have avoided the police because in my younger days "I was never wrong :lol2:"

 

I've been pulled over block from my house at 2am when I was 17 and asked if we were "Smoking drugs" and ordered out of the car. He was trying to tell if I was drunk or high I suppose.

 

I've been the Co-Host of a party that the Sheriff came to and broke up...he could have taken most of us to jail but we were honest and didn't act like jerks...so we didn't go to jail.

 

I got a "Drag Racing Ticket" without ever speeding, spinning my wheels or crossing the center line. I did take off quickly and at the same rate as the car next to me, however. There are many times I deserved a ticket for drag racing and didn't get one but I didn't deserve one that night. It was a mess to get taken care of too, insurance got cancelled license suspended for a few weeks...a mess.

 

I was arrested once...not a story for BGP...but it was the week of my 21st Birthday...one cop was a butt hole to me another one was pretty cool.

 

I've had at least 3 speeding tickets that I've had to pay, two of which IMO I didn't deserve.

 

I got in a fight one night in Richmond and it was broken up by the police...it was broken up "Hard" as in slammed against a block wall.

 

All of that said, I didn't hate on the police...in every case there was something I could have done a little differently that wouldn't have brought me to their attention. Now at the time I wouldn't have admitted that I could have avoided the police because in my younger days "I was never wrong :lol2:"

 

Good Lord trouble maker.