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BREAKING: Obama to say US will use airstrikes to take out Islamic State fighters 'wherever they exist'

A year late, but it's a start.

He has declared he has the authority without Congress' approval, no doubt.

Next up in the Middle East...Syria.

Obama will continue to do as little as possible to provide national security. Remember when the national media refused to provide prime time to Bush for speeches? Remember when liberals ridiculed Bush's coalition of 37 nations? Obama's coalition at last count consisted of 9 nations and he is calling it a "broad coalition."

 

Even MSNBC's Chuck Todd says that Obama is doing Jimmy Carter type of damage to Democrats' credibility on foreign policy. Who's the next rat to jump from a sinking ship? Chris Matthews?

Obama will continue to do as little as possible to provide national security. Remember when the national media refused to provide prime time to Bush for speeches? Remember when liberals ridiculed Bush's coalition of 37 nations? Obama's coalition at last count consisted of 9 nations and he is calling it a "broad coalition."

 

Even MSNBC's Chuck Todd says that Obama is doing Jimmy Carter type of damage to Democrats' credibility on foreign policy. Who's the next rat to jump from a sinking ship? Chris Matthews?

 

Maddow will go down with the ship I hope.

I always get the shakes when I hear about the US arming the moderate rebels in a country....we've not had much success with that going back to WWII and it has directly resulted in atleast 2 wars.

Is there a single instance of the US intervening in what amounts to "civil war" being successful? Or maybe the question is...how do we define success? What is the value to us of favoring one party over another. By civil way I mean warring factions under one governmental entity or geographical state. Vietnam, Korea for example.

Is there a single instance of the US intervening in what amounts to "civil war" being successful? Or maybe the question is...how do we define success? What is the value to us of favoring one party over another. By civil way I mean warring factions under one governmental entity or geographical state. Vietnam, Korea for example.

 

I guess we define success by attempting to balance the playing field.

He has declared he has the authority without Congress' approval, no doubt.

 

Congress wants him to act without approval. To a person, no matter which side of the aisle, these people are happy to hand the tough decisions over to the executive so that they don't have to put their name to it. They've been doing it since Jackson was president.

I guess we define success by attempting to balance the playing field.

 

That would be my perception, at great cost to the US (in many ways), but nothing is gained in the end. I am wondering if we should be more direct and more demanding to suit our interests or at least a lasting commitment from whomever we support or either stay out altogether.

Maddow will go down with the ship I hope.

 

Now that's funny. :thumb: I can only watch her for about 10 seconds before I have to turn her off.

That would be my perception, at great cost to the US (in many ways), but nothing is gained in the end. I am wondering if we should be more direct and more demanding to suit our interests or at least a lasting commitment from whomever we support or either stay out altogether.

 

Most of that is over my head but I will say I think a lot is gained by keeping the playing field level. No group has a big enough war machine to hurt us at home.

Most of that is over my head but I will say I think a lot is gained by keeping the playing field level. No group has a big enough war machine to hurt us at home.

 

Over my head too. It would be desirable to have a clear military objective in place I would think prior to deploying resources.

 

"Well...let's see...lets' drop a few bombs here...and a few over there. Let's send over some "consultants" but just for training."

Money makes the world go round. Why don't we just let the dust settle over there and then partner w/ them for their fuel. They can use all of the rhetoric that they want, they'll want business partners once they take over. It is either that, or go balls out to obliterate them. I'm not sure what endless air strikes will do.