July 21, 201412 yr I read yesterday where the officer in question has also been the center of controversy in two cases that eventually settled out of court and the charges he brought against two other men in those incidents were completely dropped before even making it to trial. That's not going to help his cause any. But if you were defending him wouldn't you do everything in your ability to block that information from ever seeing the inside of a court room. Just like the man that was arrested had 31 previous arrest, that couldn't be used against him in court could it? Just at his sentencing, right?
July 21, 201412 yr But if you were defending him wouldn't you do everything in your ability to block that information from ever seeing the inside of a court room. Just like the man that was arrested had 31 previous arrest, that couldn't be used against him in court could it? Just at his sentencing, right? You definitely do everything you can. Whether or not you have a good argument is a different question. Different rules for different situations (civil and criminal) and according to State. Not really 100% sure on that one without having to look stuff up. If the complaints were, for say, excessive force, then they probably come in. If the complaints were something unrelated, then they probably don't.
August 1, 201412 yr Official: Police chokehold killed NYC man Couple quotes from the article: A New York City police officer's illegal chokehold killed Eric Garner last month, and his death has been ruled a homicide, the medical examiner announced Friday. Medical examiner spokeswoman Julie Bolcer said Garner died from "the compression of his chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police." Asthma and heart disease contributed to his death, she said.
August 1, 201412 yr I don't know if they guy deserved to be arrested or not and I'm not exonerating the police. My question, is this the taught technique on how do you go about arresting a rather large individual that is resisting? Sometimes you cannot tell if the guy is drug induced, has a heart problem, breathing issue, etc. Should police officers say "sir I'm placing you under arrest but before I do I need to ask you if you are this this and this or do you have this this and this?" Would that take the element of surprise away an officer relies on to get you subdued quickly. I'm sure if they had used a taser, the guy may have died by that method as well. Any idea of a method that would have been better because I don't think the guy was going to voluntarily go with or be handcuffed by police. If you resist, you make it worse on yourself especially if you are a large guy and it will take numerous officers to get you under control. Just wondering.
August 2, 201412 yr Kneeling on him to restrain him? May be, but what I saw he was on his side throughout the entire thing. He was talking and moving through it all. I understand he had an heart attack but if he didn't die of asphyxiation I don't see how it is the officers fault. If he was able to talk then he was not deprived of oxygen from a choke hold either. Bad situation all around.
August 2, 201412 yr Official: Police chokehold killed NYC man Couple quotes from the article: Who deemed the choke hold "illegal"? I realize it was against nypd policy but that in itself doesn't make it illegal like the article claims.
August 6, 201412 yr May be, but what I saw he was on his side throughout the entire thing. He was talking and moving through it all. I understand he had an heart attack but if he didn't die of asphyxiation I don't see how it is the officers fault. If he was able to talk then he was not deprived of oxygen from a choke hold either. Bad situation all around. This quote from the Medical Examiner's Office makes it a little less clear as to what killed him: From CNN: The cause of Garner’s death was “compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police,” said Julie Bolcer, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. The death was ruled a homicide.
August 25, 201412 yr This one is for the "you can talk, so you can breathe" theory. Pleading suspect dies in police custody: 'You can breathe just fine' - LA Times
August 25, 201412 yr This one is for the "you can talk, so you can breathe" theory. Pleading suspect dies in police custody: 'You can breathe just fine' - LA Times Not being able to breathe due to asthma is different from not being able to breath from being choked. I would say the guy was having trouble breathing due to the heart attack that they said he had not from having his air cut off from a "Choke Hold"
August 25, 201412 yr You don't get that kind of training at the academy. No way, that's old school. They actually do teach a non-choking "Neck Restraint" as a way of controlling someone in certain circumstances. To a by stander it would look like a choke hold but if done properly it would never come close to cutting off air flow. I'm not sure what the ROE would be for using it.
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