It has been mentioned in numerous threads by different people that kids have or will have offers to continue playing football beyond high school. What does one consider an offer since this term seems to be thrown around pretty loosely.

It has been mentioned in numerous threads by different people that kids have or will have offers to continue playing football beyond high school. What does one consider an offer since this term seems to be thrown around pretty loosely.

 

What I learned from Drew Barker's recruitment is that there are offers and there are "committable" offers. Often times an offer is conditional. If you can't pick up the phone and say "yes" then you really don't have an offer.

The biggest difference is that there are scholarship offers and there are non-scholarship offers. Scholarship offers are offers of financial support for athletic participation. Non scholarship offers are either walk on or roster spots which typically do not involve financial support for athletic participation.

 

I would also add, once a program has commitments for the number of scholarships available, the rest of the "offers" on that position are null and void. It is not unusual at skill positions for programs to make 4-offers for every scholarship available at every position.

Here is an additional question. Do I need an "offer" to play at Thomas More, Mt. St. Joe, Centre, Hanover?

Check out the College Recruiting Forum...lots of good info in there.

Here is an additional question. Do I need an "offer" to play at Thomas More, Mt. St. Joe, Centre, Hanover?

Yes. My son was "Offered" a position at Centre, that is not an offer that is open to everyone. Of course, the D3 schools don't have athletic scholarships, but it's an "offer of a position". How that works depends on the level of play of the school, Centre is an elite D3 Football Program, as is Mt. St. Joe. They are recruiting like a D2 or NAIA school but can't offer money.

 

Same way with the elite NAIA schools, they are recruiting like a FBS or D2 school but have less scholarships to offer. They are trying to get the biggest bang for their buck. You don't just walk on the campus at Georgetown and say "I'm playing here", they have to offer you a position no matter if you are getting football money or not.

 

To answer the original question, "Offer" has different meanings. Most think "Full scholarship" and that it is not wrong to think that way, but you can be "offered a full scholarship, a partial scholarship (to FCS, D2, NAIA), a walk on position (not offered to everyone), and as Clyde stated, there are "offers" and their are "Committable offers" (at the FBS level).

 

Part of the confusion comes from wording in the "offer". Many schools will not come out and say "We are offering you a scholarship", they say things like "we really want you", "if you want to play here, you can", and "we will talk money later". Are those offers? Sometimes, sometimes they are really saying "we want this other guy and if doesn't come here, we will take you". It's confusing, by design.

It is my understanding that a DI football offer has to be a full ride.

It is my understanding that a DI football offer has to be a full ride.

Only FBS, and only if it's a scholarship offer. They offer Preferred Walk On positions and just regular walk on positions. Some people will say "Offer" when any of those are offered. And, I don't want to down play a PWO offer, it is an accomplishment.

Yes. My son was "Offered" a position at Centre, that is not an offer that is open to everyone. Of course, the D3 schools don't have athletic scholarships, but it's an "offer of a position". How that works depends on the level of play of the school, Centre is an elite D3 Football Program, as is Mt. St. Joe. They are recruiting like a D2 or NAIA school but can't offer money.

 

Same way with the elite NAIA schools, they are recruiting like a FBS or D2 school but have less scholarships to offer. They are trying to get the biggest bang for their buck. You don't just walk on the campus at Georgetown and say "I'm playing here", they have to offer you a position no matter if you are getting football money or not.

 

To answer the original question, "Offer" has different meanings. Most think "Full scholarship" and that it is not wrong to think that way, but you can be "offered a full scholarship, a partial scholarship (to FCS, D2, NAIA), a walk on position (not offered to everyone), and as Clyde stated, there are "offers" and their are "Committable offers" (at the FBS level).

 

Part of the confusion comes from wording in the "offer". Many schools will not come out and say "We are offering you a scholarship", they say things like "we really want you", "if you want to play here, you can", and "we will talk money later". Are those offers? Sometimes, sometimes they are really saying "we want this other guy and if doesn't come here, we will take you". It's confusing, by design.

What is an "offer" at D3?

 

 

Mt St Joe is an elite D3 program?

What is an "offer" at D3?

 

 

Mt St Joe is an elite D3 program?

 

My understanding is that at D3, athletes cannot receive aide that is not generally available to the student population at large. So, you have the privilege of playing football, without any financial relief that is not generally available.

 

I do not know if Mt. St. Joe offers in state tuition for NKy students, but many places, the total cost of attending college is over 50 K per year now. You even have to buy your own equipment in d3. Given the economics of my household, it is very difficult to justify non scholarship football, especially since the student is giving up the opportunity to work by playing.

What is an "offer" at D3?

An offer of position, you can't just walk on campus and say "I'm going to be on the football team?

You even have to buy your own equipment in d3.

Where on earth did you hear such a thing?

You have to be offered a spot on any college football team regardless of level. When talking about kids being offered, I consider an offer to be a full scholarship offer.

An offer of position, you can't just walk on campus and say "I'm going to be on the football team?

 

D3 and NAIA, I have never heard of them telling a player they cannot be on the team, but I guess it is possible.

Edited July 19, 201412 yr by doubledeuce

My understanding is that at D3, athletes cannot receive aide that is not generally available to the student population at large. So, you have the privilege of playing football, without any financial relief that is not generally available.

 

I do not know if Mt. St. Joe offers in state tuition for NKy students, but many places, the total cost of attending college is over 50 K per year now. You even have to buy your own equipment in d3. Given the economics of my household, it is very difficult to justify non scholarship football, especially since the student is giving up the opportunity to work by playing.

Mt St Joe does not have in state or out of state tuition, just like all of the private colleges that I am aware of.