July 3, 201412 yr Haven't we been told repeatedly that religious and moral are two different concepts? Religion is more tightly defined and quantifiable.
July 3, 201412 yr We finally found something we agree on, Ginsberg needs to go! Both Scalia and Kennedy turn 78 this year.
July 3, 201412 yr (A) Abortion is legal. (B) So is owning a gun. High court this week further loosened the mortar of (A). Whatever happens to (A) can also happen to (B). That's my point. Much could change with the replacement of one Supreme Court justice. So by that logic: (A) Being an African-American is legal. (B) Plastic bags are also legal in the US. Loving vs. Virginia made it legal in the United States for members of any race to marry (A). Whatever happens to (A) can also happen to (B), right?
July 3, 201412 yr Didn't realize Kennedy was that old. Four justices were born in the 1930s. Here's a list of birth dates. United States Supreme Court Justices
July 3, 201412 yr Haven't we been told repeatedly that religious and moral are two different concepts? Religion is more tightly defined and quantifiable. When I was out of town a few weeks ago and flipping channels in the motel room, who do I see on TV again but Jim Bakker (former husband of Tammy Faye). He evidently has founded a new religion in Branson, Mo., based on surviving both big government and tornadoes. I kid you not. I guess he'll want some religious exemptions, too.
July 3, 201412 yr I'm looking at this issue in broader terms. Once the high court starts chipping away at legalities, then other legalities also become at risk. And the same logic that chips away at the mortar of legality A also can be used to chip away at the mortar of legality B. In this case, Hobby Lobby gets a religious exemption. Perhaps a few years down the road a city like Newtown, Conn., wins a moral exemption to ban all firearms within its city limits. You are confusing religious freedom with morality.
July 3, 201412 yr When I was out of town a few weeks ago and flipping channels in the motel room, who do I see on TV again but Jim Bakker (former husband of Tammy Faye). He evidently has founded a new religion in Branson, Mo., based on surviving both big government and tornadoes. I kid you not. I guess he'll want some religious exemptions, too. I imagine he will, problem is that this opinion is intentionally limited. Don't think he'll get far but he's free to try.
July 3, 201412 yr Happy birthday to both, and many more! At least 2 more! Note the end of this quote from VJ...
July 3, 201412 yr It's also important to view the Hobby Lobby decision based on 50 individual state laws (or lack of) regarding health insurance vis-a-vis contraception. At least 26 states have laws requiring insurers that cover prescription drugs also provide coverage for any Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved contraceptive. These states include: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. An additional two states—Michigan and Montana—require insurance coverage of contraceptives as a result of administrative ruling or an Attorney General opinion. Two states—Texas and Virginia—require that employers be offered the option to include coverage of contraceptives within their health plans. Twenty-one states offer exemptions from contraceptive coverage, usually for religious reasons, for insurers or employers in their policies: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan (administrative rule), Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas and West Virginia. Several states require employers to notify employees of their refusal to provide contraceptive coverage. None of what you just said enforces your point. You used data to say what I am saying. The law states that INSURANCE COMPANIES must cover prescription drugs in at least 26 states. Texas and Virginia require that employers be offered the OPTION to indlude coverage of contraceptives. The states have said that we do not want to force employers into anything. Insurance Companies MUST OFFER coverage in 26 states. Employers can then decide. That is exactly what the Supreme Court just said. Again, let the market take its course. If I don't want to offer contraceptive coverage, then I shouldn't have to. I also shouldn't cry and moan when I don't get the best applicants to work for me and I'm left settling for candidates that I normally wouldn't have hired. My business will suffer. That is what the free market does.
July 3, 201412 yr At least 2 more! Note the end of this quote from VJ... [ATTACH=CONFIG]45629[/ATTACH] A little Googling reveals the source of this quote is comically dubious. But, I did learn that Valerie Jarrett is the Heinrich Himmler of the Obama administration according to teaparty.org. So, there's my fact of the day.
July 3, 201412 yr A little Googling reveals the source of this quote is comically dubious. But, I did learn that Valerie Jarrett is the Heinrich Himmler of the Obama administration according to teaparty.org. So, there's my fact of the day. Ahh, teaparty.org - the most reliable, unbiased, and fact-based political website out there. :lol2:
July 3, 201412 yr None of what you just said enforces your point. You used data to say what I am saying. The law states that INSURANCE COMPANIES must cover prescription drugs in at least 26 states. Texas and Virginia require that employers be offered the OPTION to indlude coverage of contraceptives. The states have said that we do not want to force employers into anything. Insurance Companies MUST OFFER coverage in 26 states. Employers can then decide. That is exactly what the Supreme Court just said. Again, let the market take its course. If I don't want to offer contraceptive coverage, then I shouldn't have to. I also shouldn't cry and moan when I don't get the best applicants to work for me and I'm left settling for candidates that I normally wouldn't have hired. My business will suffer. That is what the free market does. The blue state-red state divide is obvious in the list I posted. States with high poverty rates (like Kentucky) are absent from those mentioned in the second paragraph requiring insurers that cover prescription drugs also provide coverage for any FDA-approved contraceptive. So, the free market appears to be at work here. In other words, one could argue that the SEC Conference Bible Belt states are paying a price for not forcing employers into anything.
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