You'd think being a professor and in somewhat of a position of authority that she would have respect for those in authority even if she disagreed with why they charged her with jaywalking. I can't imagine any teacher at any level that would give in to a combatitive and disrespectful student. Why she should expect cops to act differently is beyond me.

 

You do not know a lot of professors apparently. I say this half joking, but my son who is attending a liberal arts college has said you wouldn't believe the types of seminars he has to sit through put on by the professors and what many of the students think is right and wrong.

 

All of the stories he has told us, this one about sums up today's universities in a nut shell. Not all of them, but many liberal arts colleges. With the winter as bad as it's been up north, where he attends college. He said his college is the only one in that part of the country that has not had classes cancelled because of the snow. They never even have had a delay. At least not due to weather, as they did have 1 day where all the classes were cancelled because one of the professors on her way into her class this particular morning saw someone wearing a white sheet over their head and the entire campus was then shut down and put on alert because of a member of the KKK in the area.

 

Emails went out to the entire student body that morning informing them that classes were cancelled that day and the reason behind the cancellation. Only to find out later that the "KKK" member wasn't a member of the KKK but a girl walking to breakfast in the cold with a white blanket over her head to try and keep warm.

 

There are many professors and people in positions of authority who often times think they know best and ignore reality a lot of times simply to try and prove who is really in charge. Stupidity then follows.

The officer has resigned.

 

I wonder if he got a buyout to go away?

 

He was going to get fired no doubt. I'm being he came to an agreement to resign and not sue the school.

 

I wonder if he got a buyout to go away?

 

He was going to get fired no doubt. I'm being he came to an agreement to resign and not sue the school.

 

I hope not. I hope he sues and wins a lot of money. Her suit should be thrown out immediately.

 

There are plenty of cases of police misconduct every year. This ain't one of em

I hope not. I hope he sues and wins a lot of money. Her suit should be thrown out immediately.

 

There are plenty of cases of police misconduct every year. This ain't one of em

 

If that's the case wouldn't his resignation be a detriment to his case?

 

If that's the case wouldn't his resignation be a detriment to his case?

 

I'm not sure. I'm not an attorney. He resigned because of the stress it was putting on his family according to his statement though right?

I'm not sure. I'm not an attorney. He resigned because of the stress it was putting on his family according to his statement though right?

 

 

I'm not sure. I just read Clyde's post. That's why I thought they might have reached some kind of settlement with him to go ahead and resign. If he said the resignation was due to stress I'd say he is gearing up for a lawsuit.

I'm not sure. I'm not an attorney. He resigned because of the stress it was putting on his family according to his statement though right?

 

His resignation would basically bar any kind of wrongful termination claim if he tried to bring one against them.

 

Basically, I just think they didn't want him out playing cowboy like he'd been doing.

 

His insurance ran out and then they moved to terminate him after. No one's going to insure him, they don't want to be liable for him. Kind of an easy call to make in that regard.

 

Through all of this, the school still hasn't released his disciplinary record, and he'd only been on the job about 6 months. Just a hunch, but you'd think in all the PR backlash they took, they'd have immediately released his record if it were clean.

 

Add to that the fact that he's possibly getting terminated, talking about suing, etc., and then suddenly resigns.

 

Methinks there was probably something in his disciplinary record that hasn't been released that someone sat down with him and finally had him "see the light" about how ugly it'd get if he sued.

 

Not really much of a wrongful termination claim when someone resigns, and it can only happen in limited cases. His resignation probably effectively barred him bringing anything in that regard.

 

 

When Can an Employee Quit and Still Sue for Wrongful Discharge? | Employment and Labor Relations Law | ABA Section of Litigation

His resignation would basically bar any kind of wrongful termination claim if he tried to bring one against them.

 

Basically, I just think they didn't want him out playing cowboy like he'd been doing.

 

His insurance ran out and then they moved to terminate him after. No one's going to insure him, they don't want to be liable for him. Kind of an easy call to make in that regard.

 

Through all of this, the school still hasn't released his disciplinary record, and he'd only been on the job about 6 months. Just a hunch, but you'd think in all the PR backlash they took, they'd have immediately released his record if it were clean.

 

Add to that the fact that he's possibly getting terminated, talking about suing, etc., and then suddenly resigns.

 

Methinks there was probably something in his disciplinary record that hasn't been released that someone sat down with him and finally had him "see the light" about how ugly it'd get if he sued.

 

Not really much of a wrongful termination claim when someone resigns, and it can only happen in limited cases. His resignation probably effectively barred him bringing anything in that regard.

 

 

When Can an Employee Quit and Still Sue for Wrongful Discharge? | Employment and Labor Relations Law | ABA Section of Litigation

 

Could be something there, but you don't know that right? If the university was so ready to boot him then release his supposed disciplinary record and just move him out.

 

If he was only there 6 months, the odds are that he was with a Field Training Officer for almost that entire time.

 

You think he would know what was in his disciplinary file if there even was one, no one had to "Show him the light" if he was disciplined he already knew it.

Could be something there, but you don't know that right? If the university was so ready to boot him then release his supposed disciplinary record and just move him out.

 

If he was only there 6 months, the odds are that he was with a Field Training Officer for almost that entire time.

 

You think he would know what was in his disciplinary file if there even was one, no one had to "Show him the light" if he was disciplined he already knew it.

 

 

If there was a huge settlement, I'd imagine with that ASU being a public university, then it will come out eventually. Too much record keeping with public money and all that. The exact amount of the severance package might not be known, but a huge "shut up and go away" payment would probably be noticeable in budgets.

 

You are just posing another theory in saying that "If the university was so ready to boot him then release his supposed disciplinary record and just move him out."

 

Why I'm not convinced that is as likely is because it puts ASU on the hook for more if it goes public. If it doesn't start hitting the papers, then it cushions the blow they make take later on when Ore files a civil suit. Regardless of whether or not that's meritous, it's probably coming and you think ASU is probably not looking forward to it.

 

You'd think this guy would already know a lot of things... but his actions don't really seem to indicate that's the case.

 

 

Why I think someone "showed him the light"... he was talking about suing if terminated a few weeks ago and even had an attorney. Now he suddenly resigns and effectively bars a claim he could bring up later?

 

Yea... that doesn't really pass the smell test.

 

 

If there was a settlement, that will probably break soon enough, even though the exact amount may not be known. Otherwise, he's had a 180 in his course. Maybe he did that on his own, who knows, but yea, definitely a 180 to go from talk of suing for being terminated to resigning.

I hate it when I'm right:

 

The first thing we noticed is that on page one of the ASU document -- authored by current ASU Police Chief Michael Thompson -- it sustains a finding that Ferrin "acted contrary" to policy and procedure during a confrontation with student Joseph Rheinhardt on May 15.

 

The 18-page intent-to-terminate document (see below for link) by Chief Thompson begins by stating that Ferrin committed "multiple acts of noncompliance and misconduct."

 

 

Boom. Third encounter that is now being questioned and was the one that let them do him.

 

Six months on the job. Jaywalking on a closed street where the speed limit is about 15 and you claim that you almost hit the pedestrian with your car. 911 call from a bystander saying officer is being aggressive.

 

Flip flop from "I'm going to sue" to "I'm going to resign to spend more time with my family" usually means someone's sat down and been shown the light.

And to add to it, his file had another formal complaint, one from an ASU parent who had an encounter with him.

Man you hate this guy! :lol2:

 

Enjoy your thread!

Five days before Ore's arrest, an ASU researcher filed a complaint based on Ferrin's actions in another incident. The officer was directing traffic when he demanded the researcher's ID and threatened to arrest him for disobeying commands to use another crosswalk. That incident was handled "inappropriately," the report said, because the researcher had crossed the street legally and posed no hazard to others. Ferrin was counseled to exercise better judgment and good communication. The counseling took place before the incident involving Ore.

 

Ferrin spent an "inordinate amount of time on traffic enforcement." He continued to write tickets despite being told to issue fewer tickets and more warnings. One supervisor told him that "you do not always have to throw the book at everybody."

 

In June 2012, while a police recruit in the academy, Ferrin received a letter of reprimand for untruthfulness, insubordination and code-of-conduct violations.

Man you hate this guy! :lol2:

 

Enjoy your thread!

 

Dude, I'm just saying, all the circumstances pointed to him having a nasty record and I get called out for saying that it looked like that and if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

 

Now that he's resigned, the stuff is really hitting the fan.

 

I don't feel the least bit sorry for the guy.

 

You have people filing complaints against you all the time, whether it's your boss or the people you encounter at your job, and it's not like they're out to get you, it's that you are the jerk.

 

Everything in the world has been said about the professor, but I wonder if everyone feels the same now that his whole record is going to be out there.

One final question...Did anything in his past cause her to refuse what he asked her to do or to kick him when attempted to arrest her?