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I've never seen it called an out off the catcher's mitt unless the ball is tipped up in the air above the catcher.

 

Thinking back on it I believe I saw a ball deflect off the mitt then the mask and pop up in the air and then caught. I think the batter was called out. So now I'm doubting what I posted before.

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A friend and I were watching an MLB game a couple years ago when this play happened. Ball was foul tipped off the catcher's mitt and he pinned it under his arm against his body. The ump did not give him an out.

 

I talked to my buddy this morning and he thinks that the ball tipped the mitt and got lodged between the catcher's chest protector and his jersey and that's why he didn't get the out.

 

I don't have an official rule book. If someone on here has one please look up the rule on foul tips. I'm a stickler for knowing the rules and I want to know which is the correct ruling.

 

Thanks.

It seems like I've seen something close to this...After B4 took a pitch that was immediately after B3's at bat it's too late to appeal...I think. Lineup just keeps going, but if they had appealed before B4 took a pitch, B2 would be called out.

 

You are exactly right. Once a pitch in thrown to B4 that LEGALIZES what B3 did, continue play from that point!!

Clyde, can you verify the bold part? Unless HS is different than pro rules I thought that that situation would still be an out. I saw it once in a pro game and it was deemed strike 3 since the ball did not leave the catcher's frame and did not come to a rest on the catchers leg.

 

If the ball is foul tipped, goes directly off the catcher's mitt, then it can hit any part of the catcher's body and if he catches before it hits the ground it is strike 3 and the ball is alive.

A friend and I were watching an MLB game a couple years ago when this play happened. Ball was foul tipped off the catcher's mitt and he pinned it under his arm against his body. The ump did not give him an out.

 

I talked to my buddy this morning and he thinks that the ball tipped the mitt and got lodged between the catcher's chest protector and his jersey and that's why he didn't get the out.

 

I don't have an official rule book. If someone on here has one please look up the rule on foul tips. I'm a stickler for knowing the rules and I want to know which is the correct ruling.

 

Thanks.

 

If it is strike 1 or strike 2 it's NOT an out on a foul tip, just a strike and the ball remains alive, if the same thing happens on strike 3 it's an out and the ball remains alive!

It seems like I've seen something close to this...After B4 took a pitch that was immediately after B3's at bat it's too late to appeal...I think. Lineup just keeps going, but if they had appealed before B4 took a pitch, B2 would be called out.

 

Correct.

 

Let's change it.

 

Instead of B2 starting the inning B4 starts the inning. Walks.

B3 now comes up. Walks.

B5 comes up. 2-1 count. Coach THEN comes out.

 

What do you do?

Correct.

 

Let's change it.

 

Instead of B2 starting the inning B4 starts the inning. Walks.

B3 now comes up. Walks.

B5 comes up. 2-1 count. Coach THEN comes out.

 

What do you do?

 

nothing. B5 is the correct batter because B4 is standing on 2nd therefore you skip his spot in lineup.

They could have gotten an out after B4 walked and after B3 walked, but now that they have pitched to B5, B3 was legitimized. Meanwhile their bookkeeper has been kicked out of the dugout and told to never return.

nothing. B5 is the correct batter because B4 is standing on 2nd therefore you skip his spot in lineup.

They could have gotten an out after B4 walked and after B3 walked, but now that they have pitched to B5, B3 was legitimized. Meanwhile their bookkeeper has been kicked out of the dugout and told to never return.

 

 

Nicely done.

Real scenario in youth baseball; Runners on first and third, one out. When the P is in the stretch,

the R1 takes off for 2B. He reaches the base almost simultaneously as the pitch is released, well before the batter makes contact. The ball is popped up, the runner is doubled off at first. Is this correct?

Real scenario in youth baseball; Runners on first and third, one out. When the P is in the stretch,

the R1 takes off for 2B. He reaches the base almost simultaneously as the pitch is released, well before the batter makes contact. The ball is popped up, the runner is doubled off at first. Is this correct?

 

Correct.

 

Release of the ball is irrelevant. The pitch starts when the pitcher commits to having to throw the pitch.

Here is another one: Clyde is at bat with two out, CFS is on second. Clyde by some miracle rips the ball into the corner for a double and CFS scores easily...the pitcher, Sweet16 appeals and throws the ball to first where the base is tagged and Clyde is called out for missing the base on his way to second. Does the run count?

 

No run counts.

While on the subject of appeals:

 

Two outs.

 

Runner on 1st. Ball hit to the gap. R1 scores from first. Batter ends up at second with a double.

 

SS steps on 2nd base saying R1 missed the base. Blue agrees and calls him out. 1st baseman calls for the ball and steps on first and says "batter missed first." Blue agrees.

 

Now what?

These scenarios are what makes baseball great. I'm not talking about rules interpretation but the fact that in one or two sentences you can completely set the game in the minds eye.

 

1 run game with 2 on @ 1st and 3rd, 3-2 count bottom of the 4th with the 4 hole at bat...what other sport can be so completely described and the game situation set with drama in such a brief statement the way baseball is.

While on the subject of appeals:

 

Two outs.

 

Runner on 1st. Ball hit to the gap. R1 scores from first. Batter ends up at second with a double.

 

SS steps on 2nd base saying R1 missed the base. Blue agrees and calls him out. 1st baseman calls for the ball and steps on first and says "batter missed first." Blue agrees.

 

Now what?

 

Ump tells 1st basemen "Son you only need 3 outs, get in the dugout":lol2:

Ump tells 1st basemen "Son you only need 3 outs, get in the dugout":lol2:

 

:lol2:

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