April 24, 201412 yr The obvious question is why do we care what Clive Bundy thinks about anything besides his battle with BLM? Cliven Bundy Wonders If Blacks Are 'Better Off As Slaves' Than On Gov't Assistance
April 24, 201412 yr I think we need to invite Bundy to take a tour of the Freedom Center here in Cincinnati and see if he feels the same way afterwards.
April 24, 201412 yr The obvious question is why do we care what Clive Bundy thinks about anything besides his battle with BLM? It's entertaining to use as fodder against all the people that have spoken out in favor of him... ... but in truth, we shouldn't care anything at all.
April 24, 201412 yr Author It's entertaining to use as fodder against all the people that have spoken out in favor of him... ... but in truth' date=' we shouldn't care anything at all.[/quote'] Now people who supported his cause have to come out with official statements distancing themselves from this comment. We are a nation of simpletons.
April 24, 201412 yr Now people who supported his cause have to come out with official statements distancing themselves from this comment. We are a nation of simpletons. This^
April 24, 201412 yr Now people who supported his cause have to come out with official statements distancing themselves from this comment. We are a nation of simpletons. I don't know that "simpletons" is the correct word, but we've definitely allowed ourselves to become a nation incapable of having discussions with nuance, subtlety, or distinction. This is a perfect example. All these Congressmen who came out in support of Bundy's battle with the BLM have now been pegged with this guy's moronic comments about what constitutes slavery. (Just so we're all clear on this board... nothing in today's United States involving the government dole is "like slavery". You know what was "like slavery"? "Slavery.") So now instead of being the congressmen that support a battle with the BLM, they're the people who support the old racist coot in Nevada, which is not what anyone set out to do or what anyone cared about when this thing started. We are absolutely unable to separate arguments from the people making them and that's a problem. Even when we do, we only speak about those arguments in broad generalizations and sweeping statements of ideology. There's no room for subtleties: in modern America, we don't have an issue with some people abusing social welfare systems and not finding jobs, we have a problem with "WELFARE QUEENS SNATCHING UP YOUR HARD-EARNED DOLLARS TO SPEND ON CHILDREN THEY CAN'T AFFORD AND WHO WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN!" On the other side of the same coin, we don't have an issue with some people abusing social welfare systems and not finding jobs, we have a problem with "CRONY FAT CATS DESTROYING THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS AND RACIST CORPORATE OVERLORDS CONTROLLING THE CONGRESS AND DESTROYING NEARLY 100 YEARS OF TRYING TO BUILD A BETTER AMERICA!" I'm about fed up with the whole thing. Left and Right can both line up and bite me.
April 24, 201412 yr I don't know that "simpletons" is the correct word, but we've definitely allowed ourselves to become a nation incapable of having discussions with nuance, subtlety, or distinction. This is a perfect example. All these Congressmen who came out in support of Bundy's battle with the BLM have now been pegged with this guy's moronic comments about what constitutes slavery. (Just so we're all clear on this board... nothing in today's United States involving the government dole is "like slavery". You know what was "like slavery"? "Slavery.") So now instead of being the congressmen that support a battle with the BLM, they're the people who support the old racist coot in Nevada, which is not what anyone set out to do or what anyone cared about when this thing started. We are absolutely unable to separate arguments from the people making them and that's a problem. Even when we do, we only speak about those arguments in broad generalizations and sweeping statements of ideology. There's no room for subtleties: in modern America, we don't have an issue with some people abusing social welfare systems and not finding jobs, we have a problem with "WELFARE QUEENS SNATCHING UP YOUR HARD-EARNED DOLLARS TO SPEND ON CHILDREN THEY CAN'T AFFORD AND WHO WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN!" On the other side of the same coin, we don't have an issue with some people abusing social welfare systems and not finding jobs, we have a problem with "CRONY FAT CATS DESTROYING THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS AND RACIST CORPORATE OVERLORDS CONTROLLING THE CONGRESS AND DESTROYING NEARLY 100 YEARS OF TRYING TO BUILD A BETTER AMERICA!" I'm about fed up with the whole thing. Left and Right can both line up and bite me. Where is the like Button ( LIKE )
April 24, 201412 yr The media is out of control. One side supports someone, the other finds anything and everything "bad" in that persons past, then it becomes bout that instead of the real issue. The way the race card is played by anyone and everyone in this administration and those associated with it makes me sick.
April 24, 201412 yr The media is out of control. One side supports someone, the other finds anything and everything "bad" in that persons past, then it becomes bout that instead of the real issue. The way the race card is played by anyone and everyone in this administration and those associated with it makes me sick. Who played the race card in the administration? This dude said this yesterday at his press conference. The real issue, which the guy is famous for is violating laws and court orders, now he just happens to be a racist as well.
April 24, 201412 yr Now people who supported his cause have to come out with official statements distancing themselves from this comment. We are a nation of simpletons. And today's politicians play to that lowest common denominator.
April 24, 201412 yr And today's politicians play to that lowest common denominator. I think the dirty secret in American politics is that they always have.
April 24, 201412 yr The way the race card is played by anyone and everyone in this administration and those associated with it makes me sick. And the phrase "playing the race card" is the easiest device ever conceived to instantly dismiss the notion that race plays any part at all in any discussion. All groups are guilty.
April 24, 201412 yr His attempt to demonize perpetual living on government handouts was very bad. He will get Alinsky-ized for it. He should have stuck on his issue as it affects him and his family.
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