I'd like to know the answers to that too.

1. Can a person give permission to a search of another person's property?

 

2. Since the son drove the vehicle to school, was he technically in possession of the vehicle and allowed to agree to a search?

 

3. Is a school search different in the eyes of the law than another search?

 

4. If I borrow my daughter's car to go to the store and a police office asks me if he can search it, can I allow the search since it isn't my vehicle?

 

I think the short answer is if you are driving it you can give permission. There may be legal roadblocks to some successful prosecutions.

 

Think of the other side of it, drug dealers could use rental cars or cars not in their name and no one could search them thus giving them a free pass. When you think of it that way it is a no brainer.

And VoR on your #1 generally speaking I would say no unless it is a vehicle they are in fact driving.

 

In this case, I think the student is responsible for what is in the vehicle (legally speaking) but that doesn't mean I agree with the punishment.

I think most schools have student drivers sign a release, when they get a parking pass, that their vehicle is subject to search at any time.

 

But even then a filet knife doesn't warrant the punishment here.

I think most schools have student drivers sign a release, when they get a parking pass, that their vehicle is subject to search at any time.

 

But even then a filet knife doesn't warrant the punishment here.

 

Taking the schools side of it, it does violate the rule and a filet knife will kill you dead just fine.

Taking the schools side of it, it does violate the rule and a filet knife will kill you dead just fine.

 

So will a tire iron, and I'm sure most cars have those in them....

So will a tire iron, and I'm sure most cars have those in them....

 

You certainly are a poster of truth buy my guess is tire irons are allowed and knives are not.

 

I don't agree with the punishment but I do agree with the rule in this case.

So will a tire iron, and I'm sure most cars have those in them....

 

But a tire iron is designed to loosen lug nuts and change a tire. A fillet knife is designed to stab or cut flesh. Any heavy object could be considered a weapon if used with deadly intent but most were not designed that way.

 

I don't agree with the decision but that is exactly the way the school would view it.

But a tire iron is designed to loosen lug nuts and change a tire. A fillet knife is designed to stab or cut flesh. Any heavy object could be considered a weapon if used with deadly intent but most were not designed that way.

 

I don't agree with the decision but that is exactly the way the school would view it.

 

No more staplers...

No more staplers...

 

Or heavy books.

But a tire iron is designed to loosen lug nuts and change a tire. A fillet knife is designed to stab or cut flesh. Any heavy object could be considered a weapon if used with deadly intent but most were not designed that way.

 

No doubt, and that's pretty much my point, if someone wanted to cause bodily harm, they could do so with a myriad of devices at their disposal. I understand the rules, but at the same time, you have to look at it on a case by case basis IMO.

Is zero tolerance a good thing or a brain dead thing?

Totally brain dead.......and gutless.

I generally think "zero tolerance" policies are indicative of cowardice or incompetence. Discretion has to be eliminated out of fear of reprisal over its use or because those with the authority are incapable of wielding it properly.

 

Anyone not in a coma could have resolved this situation better.

From an insurance policy standpoint, liability rests with the father. The school policy and criminal law should be applied in a smiliar manner.

Taking the schools side of it, it does violate the rule and a filet knife will kill you dead just fine.

So will a softball or baseball bat carried in a backpack batbags in the hallways of most high schools every spring.

 

It is against the rule but I guess what I'm saying is that a knife in a car being against policy is a bad policy.