For such a "Pro-Gay" song, he does an awful lot of explaining that he isn't gay.

For such a "Pro-Gay" song, he does an awful lot of explaining that he isn't gay.

 

 

Not that there's anything wrong with that.:laugh:

Sure I suppose, but I'm commenting more on the content of his lyrics.

 

He's coming from a peaceful compassionate perspective, and that's found to be by some "In your face", and "unaccepting of various viewpoints"?

 

That I don't get. If he was anger filled and screaming that others must feel his way or else, but he's laying it out there in a very passive emotional way. How honestly can anyone object?

 

If you want to know the truth, from my perspective, his song and video almost always chokes me up, so it's bewildering how something poignant and passive to me is offensive to others.

 

Honestly, there's way more things in life to be offended by than this. This really doesn't come near leading the list of offensive things, but here it is magnified. That's not even logical unless we somehow live in a world where barbaric is the norm, and passive is objectionable.

 

On second thought, lots of time we do. Murder action flicks where shoot 'em up scenes that lasts a very long time win bigger box office bucks than does typically an independent style poignant meaningful flick.

 

So who actually is my audience here?

 

If the mob rules, there's not a lot I can do about that...

 

... but honestly I lost you with..."Anyone turned off by the Mac, is probably not too keen on facing the hardcore truth from the perspective of the oppressed that have dealt with being held back for far too many years??? "

 

Honestly???

 

Yes, honestly. Anyone on here that knows my posting history, knows I am constantly talking about how we need to make strides in gay rights, equality in marriage, etc. However, his music isn't very good IMO. I applaud him for taking a stand on an issue that needs more people doing so, but I'm not one that listens to music for "statements" or things like that. Before the Grammy performance, I didn't really know what his stance on the issue was, nor did I care. I simply knew I didn't like any of his songs. The sole purpose of music to me it to entertain me. He doesn't do that. Has absolutely nothing to do with his stance on this or anything else, because I actually fully agree with his position.

Is he really trying to raise awareness or get paid? He found something that works and has definitely gotten rich off it. I'm skeptical of everyone and maybe that's sad for me. But I wouldn't be shocked if we found out he didn't even have a gay uncle.

 

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Right there with you.

Right there with you.

 

This is where we differ. It's a positive message that will get through to the youth because it's a rap song. Does it matter how a positive message gets across and who is making money off of it?

 

Does every country singer really have that much heartbreak? Or drink that much? Doubtful.

 

Do all rappers have that many ho's? Or party that much? Or shoot that many people? Doubtful.

 

Who cares if he has a gay uncle or not? If one person is more accepting because of the song's message, it is worth it.

 

Take this song off his record and he is still making a lot of money.

This is where we differ. It's a positive message that will get through to the youth because it's a rap song. Does it matter how a positive message gets across and who is making money off of it?

 

Does every country singer really have that much heartbreak? Or drink that much? Doubtful.

 

Do all rappers have that many ho's? Or party that much? Or shoot that many people? Doubtful.

 

Who cares if he has a gay uncle or not? If one person is more accepting because of the song's message, it is worth it.

 

Take this song off his record and he is still making a lot of money.

It's not the message I have an issue with. I'm simply stating that I think he's playing his pocket. I can't blame him if he is. I don't care for his music, I'm not a fan of "top-40" rap very often, he's no exception.

It's not the message I have an issue with. I'm simply stating that I think he's playing his pocket. I can't blame him if he is. I don't care for his music, I'm not a fan of "top-40" rap very often, he's no exception.

 

Says the guy who fixes teeth and lives in KY...formerly EKY...

 

I feel ya.

Not a fan of Mac. HATE the thrift shop song....he lost me there. Love the female vocals in this song; love the message he is trying to send. Still don't like him though.

Yes, honestly. Anyone on here that knows my posting history, knows I am constantly talking about how we need to make strides in gay rights, equality in marriage, etc. However, his music isn't very good IMO. I applaud him for taking a stand on an issue that needs more people doing so, but I'm not one that listens to music for "statements" or things like that. Before the Grammy performance, I didn't really know what his stance on the issue was, nor did I care. I simply knew I didn't like any of his songs. The sole purpose of music to me it to entertain me. He doesn't do that. Has absolutely nothing to do with his stance on this or anything else, because I actually fully agree with his position.

 

I can dig that. I've seen you in the past be cool and enlightened about stuff. I actually thought that you were just joking a bit, but still didn't dig his style.

 

I don't love love love his style, nor do I hate it. I do dig the "Same Love" tune both in content and style as it touches me both words and melody, and find it to be an original refreshing take and change from typical rap.

 

"Thrift Shop" was a novelty for me for a couple of listens, but I didn't dig getting it trapped in my head as it drove me nuts for awhile. Other than that I haven't heard any of his other tunes as I wasn't so charged to dig that deep.

 

After buying new music every other minute for most of my life, In recent years with so much availability on the net, and less CD shelf space availability, I've chilled tremendously over the last 5 years from buying anything so that I might save my bucks and put them to more practical use.

For such a "Pro-Gay" song, he does an awful lot of explaining that he isn't gay.

 

Personally I never took it like it would be tragic for he, himself, to be gay, but an avenue he took in the song to describe stereotypes, such as all artists are queers, and all athletes are straight, which of course is ridiculous, and in many ways I just wish more straight people could really get a good picture at the truth about who in their lives, either close or respected members of their community that are gay as they'd then realize that not all homosexuals are the stereotypical ones. You only see the feminine gay guys because they stand out to you. I can't give you the exact numbers but for the sake of saying so, for every feminine gay guy there's 5 straight looking gay guys. For every masculine lesbian, there's 5 straight looking lesbians.

 

I found it a bit funny and interesting when he mentioned the "Keeping his room straight" part as I recall when I took a trip out of town with my little league baseball team when I was about 13, and we stayed two to a college dorm for a few days.

 

(Mind you the year earlier as a lefty I pulled a triple on a curve ball to right field with bases loaded that went a mile over the right fielder's head, putting our team ahead late in a very important tournament game)

 

Within 10 minutes the entire team had destroyed their dorm rooms because their mommies weren't around to pick up after them, and I was the only one that was completely tidy about keeping my room and items in order so as to not lose anything, and also to be able to find stuff when I needed it.

 

If being messy is typical of straight boys, then I was damned glad to be gay. That might've been stereotypical on my part as a 13 year old gay kid, but it certainly stuck with me as just another thing that made me realize that my head worked a bit differently than the majority of kids around me while growing up.

 

They never noticed, as I did well to keep my big paranoid secret under wraps, and when I did finally come out to my close childhood friends they were all stunned as they absolutely never thought for one minute that it was possible.

 

Honestly you really never can assume anything as my Gaydar has gone off the charts many times in situations when some of my straight friends would have never guessed about certain people, and lots of times "certain people" of reputable honorable status, and well respected in the community.

 

That's not a scandalous knock on them as I completely understand their need for discretion, but just wanted to point out that some (many) of us can be decent contributors to society, and many are, and many are also well known while their sexuality is not.

 

The thing I don't dig is when someone gay speaks out against gays to try to make everyone think that they're not.

Says the guy who fixes teeth and lives in KY...formerly EKY...

 

I feel ya.

 

Gotta go where the teeth are.

It's not the message I have an issue with. I'm simply stating that I think he's playing his pocket. I can't blame him if he is. I don't care for his music, I'm not a fan of "top-40" rap very often, he's no exception.

 

Personally I had no idea that his tunes would blow up like they did, and sorta felt like they might not, and was a bit surprised when they did, and typically I'm a pretty good judge of such things.

 

I sorta wonder too if he had any self assurance that his stuff would hit. Sure you gotta believe in yourself, but most artists pray and wonder without ever really knowing if their stuff will take off.

 

With the Mac, I think he's probably as dumbfounded as can be that his stuff took off like it did, so I'm not buying that he wrote these tunes thinking he'd net the big bucks, I think he wrote, for example, "Same Love" because he genuinely felt every word that he wrote in composing the tune, and meant every last word of it from the heart.

I just think he is horrible. His message has nothing to do with it. His rhyme scheme and delivery are bad. I love hip hop and like most hip hop fans I can't believe he won awards. I think he was made famous because of what he supports and not actual talent.

 

 

BOO-YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

We have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's cool mate. Everyone has their taste in music. I dig some hip hop, and some I don't. I do tend to dig hip hop that's more original than the generic stuff that saturates the market.

 

I personally only know two tunes by Macklemore, so I wouldn't be a good judge of his whole body of work until I give the rest of his stuff a spin.

 

I was introduced to him by Rolling Stone magazine that plugged "Thrift Shop" long before he made their cover, which I found a bit humorous considering I've known many thrift shop shoppers along the way, including myself.

 

Then by happenstance I stumbled upon "Same Love" on Youtube without even hearing any outside hype about it, and it pretty much touched me and blew me away. At the time he wasn't even popular so I wondered if either song would get any notice. I was pretty happy to find out that they did.

 

I thought that his lyrics were poignant and powerful, and in many ways hit the freakin' nail on the head. He said a lot of things that have been silenced far too long and I was like "You go boy... tell it!" and "Thank you for real dude!".

 

I can certainly see why he'd not necessarily be everyone's cup of tea, but I also can certainly see how the major importance of his content won him some awards because ultimately through his song "Same Love" he's helped in many ways change the world for the better, and I'm not sure that you can say that about too many hip hop artists. For example Kanye West who is just an arrogant freak far too full of himself. He does nothing for the world but embarrass us for actually being a member of the human race, or perhaps Kendrick Lamar.

 

No Bro... the Grammy goes to Macklemore... he's offered way more for the world than anyone nominated.

 

I'll guess that you might not dig his content which effects your take on him.

 

It's nice for a change that the winner in the hip hop category isn't a misogynous arrogant fool pandering all the stuff that Lordes so poignantly pointed out in her tune "Royals".

 

 

Nice for who? You? If they want a category for cultural hip hop then make one. Don't rob the rest of hip hop and rap awards with cultural songs about society. This isn't even hip hop though. Just because it rhymes doesn't make it rap. Dude is awful. I don't care what he is rapping about. Great message for sure but I wouldn't illegally download that crap. Give me Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Lil Wayne, etc before this guy. Hell, Justin Timberlake is more hip hop than this dude.

Nice for who? You? If they want a category for cultural hip hop then make one. Don't rob the rest of hip hop and rap awards with cultural songs about society. This isn't even hip hop though. Just because it rhymes doesn't make it rap. Dude is awful. I don't care what he is rapping about. Great message for sure but I wouldn't illegally download that crap. Give me Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Lil Wayne, etc before this guy. Hell, Justin Timberlake is more hip hop than this dude.

 

Breathe man... Just breathe...

 

It'll be alright.

 

Trust me.

 

Change is good sometimes.