I know it has been discussed on here before butsaw the following tweet and thought I'd bring it up again.

 

"@coachbooher: After playing 3 games in NY, I will be the 1st person to make a motion that @KHSAA adopt 35 second shot clock like NY state does."

 

Thoughts?

I know it has been discussed on here before butsaw the following tweet and thought I'd bring it up again.

 

"@coachbooher: After playing 3 games in NY, I will be the 1st person to make a motion that @KHSAA adopt 35 second shot clock like NY state does."

 

Thoughts?

 

I like a 1:00 or :45 second shot clock. Just something to absolutely deter teams from holding the ball (i.e., Oneida Baptist Institute completely stalling the game against a Clay County team that eventually went to the State Tournament). Clay County only won the game 16-12, and many of those points came in the fourth quarter. Credit OBI for being daring and giving their kids a chance to win the game when it just otherwise really wasn't there, but that's not really what basketball is about.

 

Up 8 with 3 minutes left in the Fourth Quarter? What stops a team from just holding the ball until the team has to foul? At least with a 1 minute shot clock, it would be interesting and keep teams from absolutely letting the air out of the ball for nearly half of a quarter.

Under no circumstances should a team be forced to shoot the ball with a lead. Understand, I am not condoning holding the ball, I've never been a fan of Four Corners offense or the like, but the team with the ball and the lead should have the opportunity to work through their offense to get the highest percentage shot possible (a lay-up), no matter how long it takes. I would have a hard time being involved with high school basketball with the existence of a shot clock, JMO.

For a lot of schools finding a bookkeeper and a clockkeeper is difficult. Finding someone to operate a shot clock would be very hard. Another volunteer needed that would really need to know the game even more so than the clockkeeper. A large challenge for most schools. Boys games, girls games, JV games, freshmen games -- I don't think many realize the challenge of finding enough folks needed to do just the basics to play a game. Adding another even more difficult job would be tough for a lot of schools. I know this is not the intention of the thread but a consideration none the less.

For a lot of schools finding a bookkeeper and a clockkeeper is difficult. Finding someone to operate a shot clock would be very hard. Another volunteer needed that would really need to know the game even more so than the clockkeeper. A large challenge for most schools. Boys games, girls games, JV games, freshmen games -- I don't think many realize the challenge of finding enough folks needed to do just the basics to play a game. Adding another even more difficult job would be tough for a lot of schools. I know this is not the intention of the thread but a consideration none the less.

 

Doesn't the ref have a button that resets the shot clock?

I have been extremely frustrated watching my team's opponent "hold the ball" to protect a lead, but I've not yet reached the point that I feel a shot clock is needed. If you have a skilled & well-coached team then your players should be able to force the team holding the ball into errors or firing up poor shots.

 

I've watched my team attempt to run the clock down and when we have a good team it is usually successful provided we make our free throws, but when we're not quite so good we end up turning over the ball or making very poor decisions.

 

I prefer that we leave our game as it is for now.

 

And by the way, what Tonkatruck has to say above has a great deal of merit to it. We seem to have enough problems finding good clock keepers (meaning giving no edge to the home team or failing to start the clock or failing to stop it and so on). I hate to add another category in which more favoritism is factored into the result of each game.

Keep in mind, it's been some years now, but I've sat through a 16-12 game when the other team was just absolutely stalling from the jump. No place in the game for that to me.

Ideally you'd like to have it, but I understand the financial and logistical strain it may cause for some schools.

Not enough 16-12 games to warrant a shot clock v

Not enough 16-12 games to warrant a shot clock v

 

True. I think an instruction to officials to watch things like 5 seconds "closely" in situations like this would do just as well.

Doesn't the ref have a button that resets the shot clock?

 

No. Someone at the scorers table has to do it. I've been a shot clock operator for a college game before. It's not brain surgery but it's not easy either.

This thread needs a poll.

I see it's that time of year again where the debate comes up. My feelings have been largely echoed above.

 

Would I like one? Sure. I believe 45 seconds to a minute would suffice and as said above that's merely as a deterrent against taking all the air out of the ball.

 

Will it ever happen. HELL NO. I'm sorry, it's just never going to happen. Some schools (and I'm including mine in this) seem like they can barely get a functioning scoreboard. A shot clock is just more wiring and another thing to fail. Who is going to pay for that to be installed? And that's before you get to the scorekeeper that is going to be relied on to reset the clock. Guarantee there's a game where a failure to reset properly would come into play.

This thread needs a poll.

 

Added.

I see it's that time of year again where the debate comes up. My feelings have been largely echoed above.

 

Would I like one? Sure. I believe 45 seconds to a minute would suffice and as said above that's merely as a deterrent against taking all the air out of the ball.

 

Will it ever happen. HELL NO. I'm sorry, it's just never going to happen. Some schools (and I'm including mine in this) seem like they can barely get a functioning scoreboard. A shot clock is just more wiring and another thing to fail. Who is going to pay for that to be installed? And that's before you get to the scorekeeper that is going to be relied on to reset the clock. Guarantee there's a game where a failure to reset properly would come into play.

 

In high school football states who use a play clock, all it is, is a clock off to the side that has nothing to do with the regular "score clock." The same could be done in basketball. Just hang it on a wall under the basket. Every gym has a baseline wall with pads. It wouldn't be as expensive to add as you think.