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The Cordia Controversy: Are All Basketball Transfers Equal?

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I have been reading the post and it is extremely amazing and to simply state it appears that many are scared of the possibility of Cordia having a good team. These are kids and we are speaking basketball (with the understanding that academics is a major part and priority). Frist for the sounds of it many of these players have upsize does that equate skill? I continuously hear of 7 or 8 D-1 players at what level of D-1 surely there is one? When speaking of players with High D-1 offer I only hear of 2 kids Hines and Cunningham. Come on folks. When I look at the so call ranking for the 14th region most have Cordia 3rd or 4th what are the real issues. These are Kids how many are national ranked by ESPN or Scout.com? so in essence why are you stressing. It is up to Rhodes and his staff to prepare the team. If they are hand picked why are there no high caliber top 40 players? Many of you have said you don't know the situations surrounding the players so to frankly state sit still and be quite until someone seeks to find out the story behind the players and stop speculating. And for those who believe they all come from poor dysfunctional homes. There are good black kids who have established goals for themselves and with the help of family, friends and or coaches are stepping out on faith to try and accomplish them in the end nothing happens by chance let God do as he will with these kids. Fear not, prepare and play hard. Hey I heard of all the schools getting players in and for the major city you have a nice pool of players for the rural city it not that easy but I guess that's fair too as long as you have the advantage. LET'S PLAY BALL I'M EXCITED.

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I have been reading the post and it is extremely amazing and to simply state it appears that many are scared of the possibility of Cordia having a good team. These are kids and we are speaking basketball (with the understanding that academics is a major part and priority). Frist for the sounds of it many of these players have upsize does that equate skill? I continuously hear of 7 or 8 D-1 players at what level of D-1 surely there is one? When speaking of players with High D-1 offer I only hear of 2 kids Hines and Cunningham. Come on folks. When I look at the so call ranking for the 14th region most have Cordia 3rd or 4th what are the real issues. These are Kids how many are national ranked by ESPN or Scout.com? so in essence why are you stressing. It is up to Rhodes and his staff to prepare the team. If they are hand picked why are there no high caliber top 40 players? Many of you have said you don't know the situations surrounding the players so to frankly state sit still and be quite until someone seeks to find out the story behind the players and stop speculating. And for those who believe they all come from poor dysfunctional homes. There are good black kids who have established goals for themselves and with the help of family, friends and or coaches are stepping out on faith to try and accomplish them in the end nothing happens by chance let God do as he will with these kids. Fear not, prepare and play hard. Hey I heard of all the schools getting players in and for the major city you have a nice pool of players for the rural city it not that easy but I guess that's fair too as long as you have the advantage. LET'S PLAY BALL I'M EXCITED.

 

I don't doubt that at all, and hope I didn't come off as insinuating that because of their race or some other immutable characteristic, that they were assumed to be anything other than a well rounded person who came from a quality background.

 

I know nothing about any of the kid's situations, and it's personally none of my business. I hope they are getting a quality education and proper care, and if that's the case, then I'm satisfied.

My comment was general and based not only on comments to your article (of which I enjoyed) but comments made throughout the forums. I agree with you and appreciate your shedding of the basic facts.

I have been reading the post and it is extremely amazing and to simply state it appears that many are scared of the possibility of Cordia having a good team. These are kids and we are speaking basketball (with the understanding that academics is a major part and priority). Frist for the sounds of it many of these players have upsize does that equate skill? I continuously hear of 7 or 8 D-1 players at what level of D-1 surely there is one? When speaking of players with High D-1 offer I only hear of 2 kids Hines and Cunningham. Come on folks. When I look at the so call ranking for the 14th region most have Cordia 3rd or 4th what are the real issues. These are Kids how many are national ranked by ESPN or Scout.com? so in essence why are you stressing. It is up to Rhodes and his staff to prepare the team. If they are hand picked why are there no high caliber top 40 players? Many of you have said you don't know the situations surrounding the players so to frankly state sit still and be quite until someone seeks to find out the story behind the players and stop speculating. And for those who believe they all come from poor dysfunctional homes. There are good black kids who have established goals for themselves and with the help of family, friends and or coaches are stepping out on faith to try and accomplish them in the end nothing happens by chance let God do as he will with these kids. Fear not, prepare and play hard. Hey I heard of all the schools getting players in and for the major city you have a nice pool of players for the rural city it not that easy but I guess that's fair too as long as you have the advantage. LET'S PLAY BALL I'M EXCITED.

 

 

None of us are scared that Cordia is gonna be a good team, they will be a very good team but what we're talking about is all the transfers Rhodes has coming in.

I saw on theroadtorupp.com that there are accusations of some local schools blocking paperwork on the Cordia kids. How does that work? Why are other schools involved?

 

Cordia is in Knott County. Knott County Central High School and Cordia are the 2 high schools in that county & both play in the 14th region. The two schools have the same Athletic Director. That AD helps coach baseball at Knott Central. Rumors are, that gentleman is the reason for the holdup on the paperwork as I believe he is the one that is required to submit it.

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Cordia is in Knott County. Knott County Central High School and Cordia are the 2 high schools in that county & both play in the 14th region. The two schools have the same Athletic Director. That AD helps coach baseball at Knott Central. Rumors are, that gentleman is the reason for the holdup on the paperwork as I believe he is the one that is required to submit it.

 

More in line with what I initially thought. I'd imagine that, in the instance of paperwork from the school the player is leaving, especially if they are a KHSAA member school, failure to turn in the paper work after a certain number of days would result in an implied waiver of any protest.

 

Could be wrong on that, but it makes sense from a policy standpoint. If you can't decide and put it in writing after say, 90 days, there's nothing there and you're just holding the kid out unnecessarily. Could be dead wrong on that though.

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My comment was general and based not only on comments to your article (of which I enjoyed) but comments made throughout the forums. I agree with you and appreciate your shedding of the basic facts.

 

Thanks, I really appreciate it. I tried to give a balanced account that stuck to the facts and mixed in some opinion and/or topics for discussion. That's what BGP is all about.

This may be off topic, but since Cordia is a public high school in Knott Co. - do these kids that live in dorms pay tuition? or are my KY tax dollars being sent to Knott Co to educate kids from out of state?

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This may be off topic, but since Cordia is a public high school in Knott Co. - do these kids that live in dorms pay tuition? or are my KY tax dollars being sent to Knott Co to educate kids from out of state?

 

Cordia has a unique situation. They receive both public and private funding. The private funding comes from a foundation that is primarily controlled by the niece of the founder of the Cordia school.

 

Rest easy, I would imagine your tax dollars aren't being used to house rowdy out of state kids, though some of them may be allotted to educating them considering it would probably be hard to separate the funding for something like educational expenses given that the worthy in-state kids share classrooms with those scoundrels from out-of-state and those savage, aggressive, hell-raising Canadians. Glad you are concerned about pork spending on education though.

 

Also, you might want to look at the proportional amount of funding at the federal and local levels.

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Cordia has a unique situation. They receive both public and private funding. The private funding comes from a foundation that is primarily controlled by the niece of the founder of the Cordia school.

 

9Rest easy, I would imagine your tax dollars aren't being used to house out of state kids, though some of them may be allotted to educating them considering it would probably be hard to separate the funding for something like educational expenses given that the worthy in-state kids share classrooms with those scoundrels from out-of-state and those savage, aggressive, hell-raising Canadians. Glad you are concerned about pork spending on education though.

 

 

Not unique at all. There are plenty of public systems that survive and thrive because they depend on both private and public funds. I live in a district that receives less money than the average district, and that difference is made up by education foundations and booster groups.

 

Not so much worried about pork spending on education as I am about these kids getting what amounts to "scholarships" to attend Cordia. I'm pretty sure that there are policies within the KHSAA that prohibit this.

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Not unique at all. There are plenty of public systems that survive and thrive because they depend on both private and public funds. I live in a district that receives less money than the average district, and that difference is made up by education foundations and booster groups.

 

Not so much worried about pork spending on education as I am about these kids getting what amounts to "scholarships" to attend Cordia. I'm pretty sure that there are policies within the KHSAA that prohibit this.

 

Yea... I don't think that's the case here (with scholarships... especially over the amount that the average student receives). Because of the area it's in, I'd imagine that Cordia's tuition is relatively cheap. Also, a reading of the school's mission statement, which has been constant throughout the school's history, is to provide a quality, low cost education to an area that needs the services.

 

Some of the links in the article mention Cordia being financially strapped as is, so I can't imagine them being a "for-profit" type of institution.

 

Maybe one of the posters more familiar with the 14th Region than I can elaborate more on the cost of tuition, housing, etc.

]I have been reading the post and it is extremely amazing and to simply state it appears that many are scared of the possibility of Cordia having a good team.[/B] These are kids and we are speaking basketball (with the understanding that academics is a major part and priority). Frist for the sounds of it many of these players have upsize does that equate skill? I continuously hear of 7 or 8 D-1 players at what level of D-1 surely there is one? When speaking of players with High D-1 offer I only hear of 2 kids Hines and Cunningham. Come on folks. When I look at the so call ranking for the 14th region most have Cordia 3rd or 4th what are the real issues. These are Kids how many are national ranked by ESPN or Scout.com? so in essence why are you stressing. It is up to Rhodes and his staff to prepare the team. If they are hand picked why are there no high caliber top 40 players? Many of you have said you don't know the situations surrounding the players so to frankly state sit still and be quite until someone seeks to find out the story behind the players and stop speculating. And for those who believe they all come from poor dysfunctional homes. There are good black kids who have established goals for themselves and with the help of family' date=' friends and or coaches are stepping out on faith to try and accomplish them in the end nothing happens by chance let God do as he will with these kids. Fear not, prepare and play hard. Hey I heard of all the schools getting players in and for the major city you have a nice pool of players for the rural city it not that easy but I guess that's fair too as long as you have the advantage. LET'S PLAY BALL I'M EXCITED.[/quote']

 

Then I would say you need to look and see where these posts are coming from in this thread. The majority, possibly the huge majority or posters on this board are from the NKY area. I myself am from the central KY area. What kind of team Cordia has or doesn't have pretty much has no affect on any of us what so ever. I guess I can't speak for everyone, but I think I can say with the utmost certainty that no one here is "afraid" of Cordia.

 

What I, and some others are "afraid" of, is a school...any school but in this particular instance Cordia, blatantly skirting the rules and doing something that is not allowed. Somebody stated (in another thread on the subject) that Cordia has had 13 transfers since last year. Now, I can't speak to that, but if that's anywhere near a fact, then something seems amiss. They have a kid that evidently Cordia is his 4th KY high school. How in the world can that be? Or, maybe better put another way...how in the world can that be...and the kid be eligible to play?

 

All those of us who are questioning this want, is the situation looked in to. If it's all above board, then fine. If things aren't right, fix them. The situation begs to be looked into, and only Cordia has themselves to blame for it if/when it is, no matter the outcome.

Then I would say you need to look and see where these posts are coming from in this thread. The majority, possibly the huge majority or posters on this board are from the NKY area. I myself am from the central KY area. What kind of team Cordia has or doesn't have pretty much has no affect on any of us what so ever. I guess I can't speak for everyone, but I think I can say with the utmost certainty that no one here is "afraid" of Cordia.

 

What I, and some others are "afraid" of, is a school...any school but in this particular instance Cordia, blatantly skirting the rules and doing something that is not allowed. Somebody stated (in another thread on the subject) that Cordia has had 13 transfers since last year. Now, I can't speak to that, but if that's anywhere near a fact, then something seems amiss. They have a kid that evidently Cordia is his 4th KY high school. How in the world can that be? Or, maybe better put another way...how in the world can that be...and the kid be eligible to play?

 

All those of us who are questioning this want, is the situation looked in to. If it's all above board, then fine. If things aren't right, fix them. The situation begs to be looked into, and only Cordia has themselves to blame for it if/when it is, no matter the outcome.

Thank you for this response. The people defending Cordia sound like politicians coming up with all kind of excuses that what they are doing is fine. How in the world is it justified because Cordia is in a rural area whereas Lexington, Louisville, etc are bigger areas. Tell the KHSAA to go to a class system. And how absurd to say an all star team made up of kids from all over the country should be allowed because the bigger areas in the state do this. This is becoming like banging your head againest the wall. Almost everyone on here sees what is happening, and as was mentioned all people want is the matter looked into and given a thumbs up or down. The whole situation is ridiculous and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive.

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Thank you for this response. The people defending Cordia sound like politicians coming up with all kind of excuses that what they are doing is fine. How in the world is it justified because Cordia is in a rural area whereas Lexington, Louisville, etc are bigger areas. Tell the KHSAA to go to a class system. And how absurd to say an all star team made up of kids from all over the country should be allowed because the bigger areas in the state do this. This is becoming like banging your head againest the wall. Almost everyone on here sees what is happening, and as was mentioned all people want is the matter looked into and given a thumbs up or down. The whole situation is ridiculous and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive.

 

Ask Indiana how going to a class system went for them.

 

To the underlined, it sounds like you are saying it's okay for schools in the larger cities in Kentucky to do something that isn't okay for schools in rural areas to do, which is a double standard.

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Thank you for this response. The people defending Cordia sound like politicians coming up with all kind of excuses that what they are doing is fine. How in the world is it justified because Cordia is in a rural area whereas Lexington, Louisville, etc are bigger areas. Tell the KHSAA to go to a class system. And how absurd to say an all star team made up of kids from all over the country should be allowed because the bigger areas in the state do this. This is becoming like banging your head againest the wall. Almost everyone on here sees what is happening, and as was mentioned all people want is the matter looked into and given a thumbs up or down. The whole situation is ridiculous and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive.

 

Thanks FOTR. Now, with that said, I can't get on board with your opinion of having any and all out-of-state transfers not be eligible to play sports. I mean, families move all the time from anywhere and everywhere, and I would say the vast majority of moves, as far as school transfer purposes go, are above board and legit. Why penalize little Johnny who moved here from AZ because his dad got a new job at XYZ company? That I can't see.

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