Pacman arrested....again

[bugatti]

Do we need to make this a sticky thread title?

[UKMustangFan]

In this article, it states that both of them refused field sobriety tests. I understand why one would be asked of the driver...but, the passenger? Is that common?

 

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During my Police in America class back at NKU, the teacher, a police chief, told us that if we're ever asked to give a Field Sobriety Test to either refuse, or tell them you want to wait until your lawyer is present. Even if you aren't driving. His reasoning was, there are some cops that are looking for reasons to make an arrest. You're a passenger in a car, blow above the limit, they can arrest for public intoxication or disorderly conduct. Said it won't stick, but most people don't wanna go through the time to get it thrown out and just pay the fine. :idunno:

[bugatti]

During my Police in America class back at NKU, the teacher, a police chief, told us that if we're ever asked to give a Field Sobriety Test to either refuse, or tell them you want to wait until your lawyer is present. Even if you aren't driving. His reasoning was, there are some cops that are looking for reasons to make an arrest. You're a passenger in a car, blow above the limit, they can arrest for public intoxication or disorderly conduct. Said it won't stick, but most people don't wanna go through the time to get it thrown out and just pay the fine. :idunno:

I am not sure with Pacman's criminal history if he would know this ^ or if he was just being Pacman.

[UKMustangFan]

I am not sure with Pacman's criminal history if he would know this ^ or if he was just being Pacman.

 

Oh, I agree. He was properly being confrontational, and the arrest was warranted, but just pointing out that refusing a FST, isn't uncommon.

[bugatti]

Oh, I agree. He was properly being confrontational, and the arrest was warranted, but just pointing out that refusing a FST, isn't uncommon.

 

I was driving home a group of people one night and I was pulled over because I had so many people in the car. My buddy (whose dad is an attorney) was telling me to refuse the sobriety test. I took it because I was sober knowing his advice was coming from a good place, but he was drunk :lol2:

[UKMustangFan]

I was driving home a group of people one night and I was pulled over because I had so many people in the car. My buddy (whose dad is an attorney) was telling me to refuse the sobriety test. I took it because I was sober knowing his advice was coming from a good place, but he was drunk :lol2:

 

Yeah, I've had the same thing happen. Got stopped coming home from a concert, and I was the sober one. Officer told me he didn't think I was drunk, but that the car reeked of alcohol (which was no surprise with the 4 other drunk people in it), so I did the test and went on my way.

[CincySportsFan]

During my Police in America class back at NKU, the teacher, a police chief, told us that if we're ever asked to give a Field Sobriety Test to either refuse, or tell them you want to wait until your lawyer is present. Even if you aren't driving. His reasoning was, there are some cops that are looking for reasons to make an arrest. You're a passenger in a car, blow above the limit, they can arrest for public intoxication or disorderly conduct. Said it won't stick, but most people don't wanna go through the time to get it thrown out and just pay the fine. :idunno:

 

Sort of blows the whole "having a designated driver" thing out of the water then doesn't it?

[UKMustangFan]

Sort of blows the whole "having a designated driver" thing out of the water then doesn't it?

 

I think the whole point is, not being pulled over in the first place. Most cops, as long as the passengers are being respectful, won't care if they're drunk.

[halfback20]

During my Police in America class back at NKU' date=' the teacher, a police chief, told us that if we're ever asked to give a Field Sobriety Test to either refuse, or tell them you want to wait until your lawyer is present. Even if you aren't driving. His reasoning was, there are some cops that are looking for reasons to make an arrest. You're a passenger in a car, blow above the limit, they can arrest for public intoxication or disorderly conduct. Said it won't stick, but most people don't wanna go through the time to get it thrown out and just pay the fine. :idunno:[/quote'] Police don't need to give you field sobriety tests in order to arrest you for alcohol intoxication in a public place. With that said, if you are drunk in a car with a sober driver and you don't act like an idiot I'd say your chances of going to jail are highly unlikely.

 

I should add that in Kentucky, police don't have to give fst's to arrest for AI. In ohio it may be required.

Edited September 24, 2013 by halfback20

[TheDeuce]

I was stopped two Saturday's ago. About 7:30 pm I think... Cop was driving through my apartment complex, and when he passed me, I hadn't put on my seat belt yet (I usually don't snap it on until the stop sign at the main road). So I'm driving along and see a car speeding up behind me, turns out it was that cop, and he lit me up. So I pulled over, having no idea at that point why. He said I needed to wear my seat belt (I had it on at this point, because I put it on where I usually do). I explained why it wasn't on when he passed me, and he seemed to understand. Took my info back to his car, and a couple minutes later came back and asked me to step out of the car. So I got out, walked to the back where he and now his partner were standing. Asked me where I worked, how long I'd worked there, how long I'd lived where I do... Answered all those questions. Asked if I had any weapons on me, I said no. He then asked if he could pat me down, so I agreed (even though I didn't want to). Didn't find anything, so he asked if I had been drinking, which I hadn't. Then he asked if I was sure, and I told them yes. Next he asked if I had anything in the car, and if they could search it. I said that there wasn't anything in the car, but that they could search it if they really felt the need. He then said "So you don't care if we search your car?" to which I again said no, I didn't care... They looked at me for a few seconds, then handed me my things and told me to have a good night... I found that whole encounter really strange. Anybody have any insight as to what might have caused all that?

[John Anthony]

I was stopped two Saturday's ago. About 7:30 pm I think... Cop was driving through my apartment complex' date=' and when he passed me, I hadn't put on my seat belt yet (I usually don't snap it on until the stop sign at the main road). So I'm driving along and see a car speeding up behind me, turns out it was that cop, and he lit me up. So I pulled over, having no idea at that point why. He said I needed to wear my seat belt (I had it on at this point, because I put it on where I usually do). I explained why it wasn't on when he passed me, and he seemed to understand. Took my info back to his car, and a couple minutes later came back and asked me to step out of the car. So I got out, walked to the back where he and now his partner were standing. Asked me where I worked, how long I'd worked there, how long I'd lived where I do... Answered all those questions. Asked if I had any weapons on me, I said no. He then asked if he could pat me down, so I agreed (even though I didn't want to). Didn't find anything, so he asked if I had been drinking, which I hadn't. Then he asked if I was sure, and I told them yes. Next he asked if I had anything in the car, and if they could search it. I said that there wasn't anything in the car, but that they could search it if they really felt the need. He then said "So you don't care if we search your car?" to which I again said no, I didn't care... They looked at me for a few seconds, then handed me my things and told me to have a good night... I found that whole encounter really strange. Anybody have any insight as to what might have caused all that?[/quote']

 

They have to find the bad guys even though clearly you aren't one. Next time they do that and you get out of the car which you have to, after one courtesy answer, tell them your confused by the questions and haven't done anything wrong . Ask them if your being detained or if you are free to go politely. This will dismiss you and they can go question someone else.

[SvFan4life]

They have to find the bad guys even though clearly you aren't one. Next time they do that and you get out of the car which you have to' date=' after one courtesy answer, tell them your confused by the questions and haven't done anything wrong . Ask them if your being detained or if you are free to go politely. This will dismiss you and they can go question someone else.[/quote'] or it can make things worse.

[MentschTrachtGottLacht]

Anybody have any insight as to what might have caused all that?

 

Sadly, in 2013, yes, I have a guess what might have caused all that. Sorry you had to endure that after doing nothing wrong at all to deserve it.

[UKMustangFan]

I was stopped two Saturday's ago. About 7:30 pm I think... Cop was driving through my apartment complex, and when he passed me, I hadn't put on my seat belt yet (I usually don't snap it on until the stop sign at the main road). So I'm driving along and see a car speeding up behind me, turns out it was that cop, and he lit me up. So I pulled over, having no idea at that point why. He said I needed to wear my seat belt (I had it on at this point, because I put it on where I usually do). I explained why it wasn't on when he passed me, and he seemed to understand. Took my info back to his car, and a couple minutes later came back and asked me to step out of the car. So I got out, walked to the back where he and now his partner were standing. Asked me where I worked, how long I'd worked there, how long I'd lived where I do... Answered all those questions. Asked if I had any weapons on me, I said no. He then asked if he could pat me down, so I agreed (even though I didn't want to). Didn't find anything, so he asked if I had been drinking, which I hadn't. Then he asked if I was sure, and I told them yes. Next he asked if I had anything in the car, and if they could search it. I said that there wasn't anything in the car, but that they could search it if they really felt the need. He then said "So you don't care if we search your car?" to which I again said no, I didn't care... They looked at me for a few seconds, then handed me my things and told me to have a good night... I found that whole encounter really strange. Anybody have any insight as to what might have caused all that?

 

Unfortunately, sounds like you were a victim of DWB. Ridiculous that you had to go through that.

[TheDeuce]

Sadly, in 2013, yes, I have a guess what might have caused all that. Sorry you had to endure that after doing nothing wrong at all to deserve it.

 

Unfortunately, sounds like you were a victim of DWB. Ridiculous that you had to go through that.

 

I guess a young black guy driving a reasonably nice car is "suspicious," even today. :idunno: