March 13, 201313 yr Author What do Jim Johnson, Francisco Rodney, Craig Kimbrel, Rafael Soriano, Chris Perez, Jonathon Papelbon, Joe Nathan, and Joel Hanrahan have in common? Better save percentage than Chapman?
March 13, 201313 yr Author I sure hope you're right. I hope the missile wins 20. I don't think he will win 20 games but I think he will put up better numbers than we got out of the 5 spot last year. I can't find them for some reason right now.
March 13, 201313 yr Better save percentage than Chapman? :thumb: As great as Chapman was, and as exciting as he was to watch close out games, 8 other teams (better than 1 out of 4) had closers that were more efficient. So really, when you get down to it, the result (not the manner in which he did it) can be duplicated.
March 13, 201313 yr Again, the word is overrated. Shutting teams down in the late innings is not. Regardless of how they handle it, Broxton, Marshall, Chapman...Chapman, Broxton, Marshall...Marshall, Chapman, Broxton. You're shortening the game and that's all that matters. Do they have a guy that can step into the 7th, 8th or 9th inning and do as well as these 3 did last year?
March 13, 201313 yr I don't think he will win 20 games but I think he will put up better numbers than we got out of the 5 spot last year. I can't find them for some reason right now. So, we are planning on Chapman now as the 5th starter? Thought he was gonna be ace.
March 13, 201313 yr Who steps into Chapman's spot if arm fatigue sets in after 50 innings again? Hell, that's May as a starter.
March 13, 201313 yr So, we are planning on Chapman now as the 5th starter? Thought he was gonna be ace. Maybe he will be, but the point is, the guy who's production you're going to replace is Leake's. Chapman will definitely outperform Leake, and unless he completely tanks, it'll be by a far greater amount than what the pen will suffer without him IMO.
March 13, 201313 yr Author So, we are planning on Chapman now as the 5th starter? Thought he was gonna be ace. 5th starter spot.
March 13, 201313 yr By nature, the team that wins the World Series is automatically going to have a closer with a high number of saves. Typically a manager names a closer and that person keeps the job the whole year. Since the team who wins the World Series wins a lot of games during the regular season, the person designated as the closer gets a lot of save opportunities. Two things: 1. Closers on winning teams get opportunities. It is up to the closer to convert those opportunities. That is like saying the guy who bats cleanup on a World Series winner automatically will have a lot of RBI's because the manager makes the order and that person keeps the job the whole year. Players have to play- closers have to close. Their success is not a function of the team they are on. Their opportunities may be, but they have to convert. 2. How would you measure, objectively, whether or not closers are overrated if you do not like my research?
March 13, 201313 yr Author Who steps into Chapman's spot if arm fatigue sets in after 50 innings again? Hell, that's May as a starter. Leake but hopefully that doesn't happen. I think it's worth taking the risk to see if he can do it. My guess is he won't be throwing more than 90 or so pitches a game for most of the year. They aren't going to risk him reaching his limits before the playoffs like Strausburg.
March 13, 201313 yr I am really struggling with this. While I think having the same closer is overrated...........I think having a bullpen that can finish games is essential............
March 13, 201313 yr Author I am really struggling with this. While I think having the same closer is overrated...........I think having a bullpen that can finish games is essential............ Well that's an entirely different thing. Obviously you need a good bullpen.
March 13, 201313 yr So, he's gone from ace to 5th starter. Ever since the double front rolls we sure have lowered our expectations. I agree with LRCW and Hal.
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