HOLY CRAP!!!! You two (Hellbird & RCC9) need to take a break. :scared:

 

Let's talk about the All "A" and Cooper baseball. :lol2:

Here's another little tidbit for you as you defend her. I have received two PM's since this subject blew up. Both of which are from ex-BC players parents (no idea who they are and don't care). Both with a similar message of their daughter playing many years of bball and having passion for the game. After the constant breating and belittling, one ended up not coming back for her senior year and the other not for her junior year. I have no idea when they played, but they also both said they could name 4-5 others in their era that chose not to return or transferred out. They mentioned that Nell is a nice person off the court, but they were happy they made the decision not to return because no matter how much they liked bball, it just wasn't worth it. The thing you have to remember (and one of the points one of them made) if you want to compare things to the real world and the workplace, you have a choice to stay or leave in situations in the real world. It's not always practical for kids to move their families to allow them to "choose" where they want to play. Some can, but many can't. If they have passion for the game, want to play and live in the Boone district, they don't really have a choice. It's deal with it or don't play!

 

They admitted that some kids have thicker skin than others and some can deal with it...but it's sad that some are pushed away because of it. So it's not all good and these people definitely had a different story about their experiences, along with multiple examples of others.

 

Again, she wins. But at what cost? If winning is everything in high school girls bball, then you win! If it's not about other life lessons and how to handle difficult situations, then you win. Because I don't see people handing tough situations like this in the real world too often.

Here's another little tidbit for you as you defend her. I have received two PM's since this subject blew up. Both of which are from ex-BC players parents (no idea who they are and don't care). Both with a similar message of their daughter playing many years of bball and having passion for the game. After the constant breating and belittling, one ended up not coming back for her senior year and the other not for her junior year. I have no idea when they played, but they also both said they could name 4-5 others in their era that chose not to return or transferred out. They mentioned that Nell is a nice person off the court, but they were happy they made the decision not to return because no matter how much they liked bball, it just wasn't worth it. The thing you have to remember (and one of the points one of them made) if you want to compare things to the real world and the workplace, you have a choice to stay or leave in situations in the real world. It's not always practical for kids to move their families to allow them to "choose" where they want to play. Some can, but many can't. If they have passion for the game, want to play and live in the Boone district, they don't really have a choice. It's deal with it or don't play!

 

They admitted that some kids have thicker skin than others and some can deal with it...but it's sad that some are pushed away because of it. So it's not all good and these people definitely had a different story about their experiences, along with multiple examples of others.

 

Again, she wins. But at what cost? If winning is everything in high school girls bball, then you win! If it's not about other life lessons and how to handle difficult situations, then you win. Because I don't see people handing tough situations like this in the real world too often.

 

By the way, these weren't disgruntled parents. They were parents of girls that played competive bball for many years. They contributed a great deal to the program, but gave it up because it was too much to deal with. They weren't kids that were mad because they didn't get in games. As I said, they did play and contributed pretty much. Both were good athletes and bball players.

One of the first things one should and usually does learn when they are put in a position of authority (whether a coach or a management position at work ) and one of the first things I learned was whether you are counseling someone, evaluating someone face to face or coaching someone is you always end with something positive. You do that and you not only keep their attention but you also earn their respect.

 

Just like in life in a supervisory role or management role it's the same as a coach, youu will always be more succesful when your subordinates, peers and/or players respect you than like you.

 

I'd much rather be respected than be liked. When you become buddy buddy and are liked instead of respected is when you get walked over.

 

I was never a Bobby Knight fan, but one thing you can't doubt is the love of him by his former players. They say he would go above and beyond when they nneeded something and that is becausehe cares for his players, most succesful coaches are ones that stilll have their former players coming back again and again just to be with that coach. Coaching, or at least great coaching doesn't end when the season is over.

He would go above and beyond thats for sure. Heck he would even ring a players neck literally. And if that didn't work he might head butt you or give you a good swift kick. All actual incidents involving Bobby Knight. As far as being respected as a coach if we think that being up in a kids face screaming or dropping F-Bombs on the sidelines is the way to achieve respect then Gods speed to the kids!!

By the way, these weren't disgruntled parents. They were parents of girls that played competive bball for many years. They contributed a great deal to the program, but gave it up because it was too much to deal with. They weren't kids that were mad because they didn't get in games. As I said, they did play and contributed pretty much. Both were good athletes and bball players.

It's all good. Just like 'i said earlier, for those that stay it's their choice and they know what they are getting into. When I coached I didn't coach her style, I coached mmy style.

 

My entire point in this entire debate has always been this. Just because you don't like her tactics doesn't mean she is a bad coach and that was the overall feeling I got from you.

 

To each his own....no problem there. Would I play for her....i'd probably been thrown off the team already because I would of went off lol. With that said, it still doesn't make her a bad coach and that has been my point all along.

I saw this coach when they played NDA in the region 9 playoffs. I was at the game with my 12 year old daughter. We were flabbergasted by how out of control this lady seemed to be. She yelled, kicked, screamed, grabbed her kids off the bench... Then after the game, even after being beaten badly, she was walking around the arena talking to people and seemed like the nicest lady on the planet.

 

I don't play for her, don't have any kids that play for her, and don't know her personally. But, that being said, seeing her coach that game made me feel bad for her team. It would seem, at least on the outside looking in, that her kids would play for her out of fear, not out of respect.

By the way, these weren't disgruntled parents. They were parents of girls that played competive bball for many years. They contributed a great deal to the program, but gave it up because it was too much to deal with. They weren't kids that were mad because they didn't get in games. As I said, they did play and contributed pretty much. Both were good athletes and bball players.

 

I have sat quietly and not said much and still won't. Your previous post said you don't know who they are and don't care yet you say they made all these contributions and got into games. Which is it?

That's okay, you both can throw stones at HHS. I'm not defending them at all. However, I will say 61-35 was the score the last time those two met. Could have very easily been A LOT worse! HHS called off the dogs!

 

This is too funny! You call him a kid for stating she had more wins than you and then you pull the "scoreboard" finger point! Love it! :popcorn:

I saw this coach when they played NDA in the region 9 playoffs. I was at the game with my 12 year old daughter. We were flabbergasted by how out of control this lady seemed to be. She yelled, kicked, screamed, grabbed her kids off the bench... Then after the game, even after being beaten badly, she was walking around the arena talking to people and seemed like the nicest lady on the planet.

 

I don't play for her, don't have any kids that play for her, and don't know her personally. But, that being said, seeing her coach that game made me feel bad for her team. It would seem, at least on the outside looking in, that her kids would play for her out of fear, not out of respect.

 

When my daughter was in 7th and 8th grade we went to watch boone county play. Since we are boone residents I wanted to have a good understanding of what she would be facing. After watching her coaching style we felt it would not be good for our daughter so we decided on NDA. The decision worked out great for us (especially this year). My daughter and I felt that the coach should be coaching the game and focusing on adjustments rather than screaming at players. I am not against getting on someone's case but its better served during practice than in game situations. If the coach is out of control, how can you expect the players to be in control.

That's okay, you both can throw stones at HHS. I'm not defending them at all. However, I will say 61-35 was the score the last time those two met. Could have very easily been A LOT worse! HHS called off the dogs!

 

You didn't think my post was funny? :grumpy: Come on RCC9, I'm just trying to lighten this up a little. Sorry if it came across the wrong way. I did not mean it as a shot at you or Highlands.

I said "yell like that", when referring to the other bball coaches I watched this year. And I didn't miss a HHS football game and I never saw Dale do any of that on the field. Is he successful???

 

And wow, you need to do a little research before you write. What region did SK win??? And yes, Boone has a couple nice wins, but also some bad losses. Equals average season. District was weak! Sorry. Dixie won their district too. Are they considered a good team?

 

Where did I say coaches shouldn't yell. But is that what you call that in that picture??? Yelling in practice and in the games is fine. But not like that. Not berating and belittleing a kid in front of hundreds. HHS coaches yell at my kid all the time, but never like that. Sorry you're wrong. I am by far the complete opposite of "everyone gets a trophy". If you read any of my posts anywhere, you could figure that out pretty quick. It's not about being overly sensitive when coaching. There is a line of when to stop. Something like above is not in line. I've coached AAU or competitive basketball for years..you think that's "everyone gets a trophy"? Absolutley not. The age I coached are freshman now. 4 of them were varsity starters this year, the others were all jv players that dressed varsity and two of them were 8th graders. Does that sound like we were an everybody gets a trophy team. Quite the opposite. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

I also am a head coach of a high school sport and I can tell you that what she is doing in that picture is the exact opposite of what the KHSAA trains their coaches in their extensive training classes.

 

Dixie cut down the nets in their district too.

 

Idiotic comments like coaches shouldn't yell. I said they shouldn't yell like that...what is posted above. That's out of control...period. She has lost it in that picture. Yelling is fine. Getting in someone's tailend is fine...in the right setting. Have no problem with it at all. Losing your composure when things don't go your way is not good.

 

Have you ever coached girls???

 

And are you EVER going to answer my questions?

Military for adults is the same as high school basketball for girls...interesting!!!

 

talk about a district thats weak look at your own what a joke so just curl up in your blue H blanket and dream to have a coach like boone not saying its right but she does win and get kids in college

talk about a district thats weak look at your own what a joke so just curl up in your blue H blanket and dream to have a coach like boone not saying its right but she does win and get kids in college

 

It's funny seeing all the Conner folk come to her defense. Wasn't there an uneasy conversation with her after Conner drummed them in their Christmas tournament?

 

Our district is weak! I said they all are. That includes ours. Much weaker than yours. Thats why district titles are not that glamorous!

 

And yes my H blanket is very comfortable.

You didn't think my post was funny? :grumpy: Come on RCC9, I'm just trying to lighten this up a little. Sorry if it came across the wrong way. I did not mean it as a shot at you or Highlands.

 

Sorry. Defensive with all the other conversation going on.

This is too funny! You call him a kid for stating she had more wins than you and then you pull the "scoreboard" finger point! Love it! :popcorn:

 

He started it!

I have sat quietly and not said much and still won't. Your previous post said you don't know who they are and don't care yet you say they made all these contributions and got into games. Which is it?

 

I don't have to know who it is if they tell me their story. They left names out