Well, what does that say about the thousands of Catholic kids in Public schools? :lol:

 

It's not an exclusive club!

I believe people would believe they could not afford it. Contrary to what you wish, the perception is out there that you attend a private school because 1)you are wealthy; 2)that is your faith.

 

That might not be true in Louisville, but I believe it is for the rest of the state.

 

Louisville should have Rod Sterling standing at the city limits because it is different than the rest of the state.

I believe that would surprise people. I would say most people think you attend a Catholic school, you are Catholic.

 

I believe that if you gave the parents of students in Catholic schools this choice and made them pick one in order for the doors to stay open:

 

1. No more teaching of Religion classes

 

2. No more discipline than any public school

 

Most would pick #1.

The Prop 20 authors are just as bad for the youth of KY. IMO their message was "vote to separate based on whatever perceptions we can come up with, and once that happens we will use that to get concessions." Great negotiating tactics but not a great message to youth and when discussing their future.

 

The BOC and BOE I agree are just as clueless as to how to properly accomplish things.

 

Once again maybe we ought to check in with Mississippi since they seem to be the only state that messes things up as much as KY.

 

God forbid if the politicians of the state of KY get involved. They might even be more clueless.

I do not believe the first paragraph is representative of their mindset. If they wanted concessions, the other proposals would have passed. They felt that two new classes, as in size classes, needed to be formed. I believe the overwhelming vote made that pretty clear.

 

100% agreement on your last sentence.

 

Prop 20 was clear. Anything else will be clouded and mudded and probably ineffective.

I believe that if you gave the parents of students in Catholic schools this choice and made them pick one in order for the doors to stay open:

 

1. No more teaching of Religion classes

 

2. No more discipline than any public school

 

Most would pick #1.

I am not sure I follow #2. Our discipline problems occur from parents who tell the kid that school is not important. That it is OKAY and there is no fallout at home from being in trouble at school. It is NOT because the public school is not trying to discipline.

 

Also, we have accepted kids this year that have been kicked out of private schools. We have to by law.

I believe people would believe they could not afford it. Contrary to what you wish, the perception is out there that you attend a private school because 1)you are wealthy; 2)that is your faith.

 

That might not be true in Louisville, but I believe it is for the rest of the state.

 

Louisville should have Rod Sterling standing at the city limits because it is different than the rest of the state.

 

 

:lol:

 

I know what the perceptions are....I personally have been dealing with it since my mom and dad chose Catholic schools for me in 1st grade! :lol: Coming from a family where we were the only Catholics in the family, we've heard it all from everyone.

 

Interesting that many take no time to find out about the schools, and even when given the information, continue to put up roadblocks to understanding. The information is there for the reading, right on the web. But...you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!

I believe that would surprise people. I would say most people think you attend a Catholic school, you are Catholic.

Then perphaps before they vote to exclude the private schools from the Ky championships they should learn what they are talking about. Trinity is about 20 percent non Catholic. The football team percentage is much lower. The percentage of non Catholics among STARTERS on the football team is also much lower and about the same as the team as a whole. This big influx of non Catholic elite athletes into the Catholic schools is a myth, it just doesn't happen.

For the record, I'm not at all saying that most of the students in Catholic schools aren't Catholic, but that there are quite a few more than the perception you mention, LBBC.

I am not sure I follow #2. Our discipline problems occur from parents who tell the kid that school is not important. That it is OKAY and there is no fallout at home from being in trouble at school. It is NOT because the public school is not trying to discipline.

 

Also, we have accepted kids this year that have been kicked out of private schools. We have to by law.

 

I understand that, and it is not the indivdual public school's problem. They are contrained by laws and regulations.

 

What I'm saying is that many parents choose a private school knowing that the school won't "take any guff" from the students and their parents. Rules are set and are followed and if not consequences will follow. Students are expected to act and learn in a certain way. To many parents that is just as important as the actual classroom instruction in a faith.

I may have missed it. But who are the members of the task force? How many parents of current or future student/atheletes are on it?

 

Janice Blackburn (Paris Ind. superintendent)

Larry Bowman (Diocese of Covington superintendent)

Dale Brown (Warren County superintendent)

Steve Butcher (Wolfe County superintendent)

Fred Carter (Glasgow superintendent)

Clayton Chambliss (Sayre headmaster)

Mitch Crump (Meade County superintendent)

Dennis Daugherty (St. Henry administrator)

Art Davis (Paducah Tilghman principal)

Gary Dearborn (Pendleton County asst. principal, KHSAA Board of Control);

Alan Donhoff (St. Xavier athletic director)

Scott Draud (Newport principal)

Bob Ferguson (retired Red Bird principal)

Stan Hardin (Lou. Holy Cross athletic director)

W. Blake Haselton (Executive director Kentucky Association of School Superintendents)

Jim Keller (Gess, Mattingly, Atchison of Lexington)

Brad Lyman (Kentucky Country Day superintendent)

Jim Mattingly (Diocese of Owensboro superintendent)

Bernadette McManigal (Diocese of Lexington superintendent)

Tim Moore (Mason County superintendent)

Gene Morrison (Cov. Latin athletic director)

Rob Mullen (Lou. Trinity president)

Michael Sander (Erlanger superintendent)

Bob Schneider (Newport Central Catholic coach, KHSAA Board of Control)

Ed Schoenbaechler (Hall, Render, Killion & Heath of Louisville)

Wilson Sears (Somerset superintendent)

Jodell Seay (Portland Christian superintendent).

Stu Silberman (Fayette County superintendent)

Leisa Speer (Archdiocese of Louisville superintendent)

Jerry Taylor (Hart County athletic director)

Larry Vick (Owensboro superintendent)

Brad Walls (Lexington Christian athletic director)

Jim Watkins (retired Jefferson County administrator)

Donna Wear (Lone Oak principal, KHSAA Board of Control)

Frank Welch (Pike County superintendent)

Jerry Wyman (Jefferson County athletic director)

Carroll Yager (Carroll County superintendent).

 

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/high_school/13591639.htm

My dad sent me to Newport Catholic because we were Catholic and we lived a block from Dayton High then, the tuition then was $125.00 a year, and it was a BIG sacrifice to send me my and my two brothers there. He sent my sister to OLPA I sent my three kids to Newport Central Catholic because we are Catholic .I have had a student there continuously there since 1994 and it was a very BIGGsarifice. My dad attended Dayton High School and always told me before he died that he wished he could have gone to a Catholic high school if there was one available. In both cases public school was not even an option. I have a niece that attends Latin school she is not Catholic .She goes there because she was told by her 6th grade teacher at Ockermann that she was answering too many questions and would she please put her hand down and let someone else answer. Is this typical at public schools ? What she did was stop answering any questions and would come home upset . That was early October . By mid October she was enrolled at Latin school and is flourshing there. O she plays soccer too and is helping Latin school to become a powerhouse in girls soccer in NKY I personally know of only one person who chose his child's high school because of athletics and she went to a public school after failing to make the sports team at the private high school that she enrolled in out of grade school.

My point with the above post is that the majority of people that I have asked in the last 6 months "Why have the sent your child (children)to this High school ? I think that you can see by my screen name which school I am refering to. The # 1 reason was that it tought the Catholic Faith. #2 for the discipline and academics. #3 and a distant #3 for the sports teams . I believe that these people have their heads in the right places. I also believe that if you would take a poll of parents that send their kids to Private high schools across the State that you would get the same results. That is the way it was in the past,that is the way now , and that is the way it will remain in the future .

My point with the above post is that the majority of people that I have asked in the last 6 months "Why have the sent your child (children)to this High school ? I think that you can see by my screen name which school I am refering to. The # 1 reason was that it tought the Catholic Faith. #2 for the discipline and academics. #3 and a distant #3 for the sports teams . I believe that these people have their heads in the right places. I also believe that if you would take a poll of parents that send their kids to Private high schools across the State that you would get the same results. That is the way it was in the past,that is the way now , and that is the way it will remain in the future .

 

Anybody could send their children to Catholic High Schools. They just have to also send them to Catholic grade schools also. If being Catholic is the #1 reason for sending them to private schools, then how come so many students who attend private schools attended public grade schools? If the public grade school was good enough then you can't tell me the public high school is not good enough also.

 

If you want to go to private high school, then go to private grade school.

 

If you want to go to public high school, then go to public grade school.

 

Sounds simple enough to me!

Anybody could send their children to Catholic High Schools. They just have to also send them to Catholic grade schools also. If being Catholic is the #1 reason for sending them to private schools, then how come so many students who attend private schools attended public grade schools? If the public grade school was good enough then you can't tell me the public high school is not good enough also.

 

If you want to go to private high school, then go to private grade school.

 

If you want to go to public high school, then go to public grade school.

 

Sounds simple enough to me!

 

It is not that simple. And to many families (especially those who are not Catholic and attend Catholic grade schools) it is not the #1 reason. Did you know that there are Catholic grade schools that the majority of students are not Catholic?

 

Some people send kids to public grade school so they can save up enough money to send them to private high school. Or perhaps they cannot afford to send all their kids to a private high school and a private grade school.

 

Some people have multiple kids in a public grade school and then send some to a private high school and some to public high school.

 

And many have multiple kids in a private grade school and may not send them all to a private high school. Then those that go to a public high school would not have come from a feeder school.

 

One family I knew had 6 children all went to a private grade school. 2 went on to a private high school that was 2 miles from their house, 2 went to a public high school that was 3 miles from their house, 2 went to a public school 17 miles from their house that was actually their district high school.

Janice Blackburn (Paris Ind. superintendent)

Larry Bowman (Diocese of Covington superintendent)

Dale Brown (Warren County superintendent)

Steve Butcher (Wolfe County superintendent)

Fred Carter (Glasgow superintendent)

Clayton Chambliss (Sayre headmaster)

Mitch Crump (Meade County superintendent)

Dennis Daugherty (St. Henry administrator)

Art Davis (Paducah Tilghman principal)

Gary Dearborn (Pendleton County asst. principal, KHSAA Board of Control);

Alan Donhoff (St. Xavier athletic director)

Scott Draud (Newport principal)

Bob Ferguson (retired Red Bird principal)

Stan Hardin (Lou. Holy Cross athletic director)

W. Blake Haselton (Executive director Kentucky Association of School Superintendents)

Jim Keller (Gess, Mattingly, Atchison of Lexington)

Brad Lyman (Kentucky Country Day superintendent)

Jim Mattingly (Diocese of Owensboro superintendent)

Bernadette McManigal (Diocese of Lexington superintendent)

Tim Moore (Mason County superintendent)

Gene Morrison (Cov. Latin athletic director)

Rob Mullen (Lou. Trinity president)

Michael Sander (Erlanger superintendent)

Bob Schneider (Newport Central Catholic coach, KHSAA Board of Control)

Ed Schoenbaechler (Hall, Render, Killion & Heath of Louisville)

Wilson Sears (Somerset superintendent)

Jodell Seay (Portland Christian superintendent).

Stu Silberman (Fayette County superintendent)

Leisa Speer (Archdiocese of Louisville superintendent)

Jerry Taylor (Hart County athletic director)

Larry Vick (Owensboro superintendent)

Brad Walls (Lexington Christian athletic director)

Jim Watkins (retired Jefferson County administrator)

Donna Wear (Lone Oak principal, KHSAA Board of Control)

Frank Welch (Pike County superintendent)

Jerry Wyman (Jefferson County athletic director)

Carroll Yager (Carroll County superintendent).

 

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/high_school/13591639.htm

Now here is a real good choice to be on this committee. He lived in the Kenton Cty School District. His father was Superintendent of the Ludlow Independent School District and he went to Highlands...for athletic reasons. Oh and he and his father want to change the school district that they currently live in from the Erlanger-Elsmere District to the Kenton Cty School District. Wasn't aware when they moved there what school district they had moved into. This coming from 2 career educators. It won't be hard to figure out what side of the issue he will be on..

Now here is a real good choice to be on this committee. He lived in the Kenton Cty School District. His father was Superintendent of the Ludlow Independent School District and he went to Highlands...for athletic reasons. Oh and he and his father want to change the school district that they currently live in from the Erlanger-Elsmere District to the Kenton Cty School District. Wasn't aware when they moved there what school district they had moved into. This coming from 2 career educators. It won't be hard to figure out what side of the issue he will be on..

 

 

I am sure that Scott Draud didn't go to Highlands just for Basketball since he went to Vandy and did rather well for himself in the classroom at both Highlands and Vandy.

 

BIGZIG, you wanted Scott to go to Ludlow, because Dad was the Superintendent of the school? Seems you got it in for the old man. :laugh:

 

BTW have you ever heard of redistricting? Where I live, we have been in and out of Boone Co and Conner High Schools districts more times than I can remember in the last twenty three years.