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Latest Update from the KHSAA 1/25

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Can someone go into detail one time for me about the feeder school deal? A link or own explanation will work, I just am having problems w/ it as I understand it now, and want to make sure my understanding of it is correct.

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There is no link or information yet. There are a couple of proposals and details will be made known later this week. There has been debate and discussion on what is believed to be key elements of the proposals.

So if a kid whose parents have to do everything they can to save up for a private education, and can only provide one for thier child in the high school years, and he is a "program guy"--- sorry kid, you didn't declare early enough. Seems to me to hurt the wrong people more than most think.

 

This point can not be missed. Very well said.

I may have missed it. But who are the members of the task force? How many parents of current or future student/atheletes are on it?

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I may have missed it. But who are the members of the task force? How many parents of current or future student/atheletes are on it?

 

Kentucky High School Athletic Association Commissioner Brigid DeVries has

announced the formation of a Public/Non-Public Member Schools Task Force and a meeting to be held by the group next Monday and Tuesday, Jan. 9-10 at the Crowne Plaza/Campbell House in Lexington.

The group was formed after a directive from the Kentucky Board of Education for representatives to revisit two proposals that were passed at the KHSAA Annual Meeting last October. The KHSAA Board and the Delegate Assembly reached differing conclusions on Proposal 20 which, if implemented, would divide KHSAA member schools into two divisions (public and non-public) for postseason play. The KBE also asked the group to revisit Proposal

3, which dealt with redistricting out-of-state students from athletic participation at KHSAA member schools, which also passed at the Delegate Assembly Meeting.

 

“The Kentucky Board of Education has directed the KHSAA Staff and Board to explore other compromise solutions within the body of the KHSAA Constitution and Bylaws that might achieve more equitable bylaws and eliminate perceived competitive inequities,” KHSAA Commissioner

DeVries stated. “We believe that this group can help provide a consensus for answers and report to the KHSAA Board and the KBE that our member schools hope to work through both issues.”

 

Monday’s meeting will be an open forum for the committee to hear remarks from representatives of KHSAA member schools. Each KHSAA member school was invited to attend and or submit information for the group to review. Tuesday’s meeting will include working sessions for the Task Force Committee.

 

The meeting will be facilitated by retired Kentucky Supreme Court Justice James E. Keller. Justice Keller served as Fayette Master Commissioner for seven years, Fayette Circuit Judge for 23 years and six years on the Kentucky Supreme Court.

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I heard the judge will send 2 proposals to the BOC and the BOC will have the delegate’s vote on which one they want

1. Two-year suspension from all sports if a kid comes from a “non-feeder school, which includes the out of state kids.

2. One-year suspension from varsity only for the same infraction. (Which to me is the same as we got now if a kid transfer from school to school)

 

What if a kid has no say in it and has to move. Like a Divorce or something like that.. would he still recieve a suspension? Or would he have to go through the KHSAA and see what they say about it?

What if a kid has no say in it and has to move. Like a Divorce or something like that.. would he still recieve a suspension? Or would he have to go through the KHSAA and see what they say about it?

There would be some sort of appeal process for an athlete to have their eligibility restored or the provisions waived.

There would be some sort of appeal process for an athlete to have their eligibility restored or the provisions waived.

 

Thanks for the Info, I dont really follow this into great detail, even though my superintendant is a big part of it.

Kentucky High School Athletic Association Commissioner Brigid DeVries has

announced the formation of a Public/Non-Public Member Schools Task Force and a meeting to be held by the group next Monday and Tuesday, Jan. 9-10 at the Crowne Plaza/Campbell House in Lexington.

The group was formed after a directive from the Kentucky Board of Education for representatives to revisit two proposals that were passed at the KHSAA Annual Meeting last October. The KHSAA Board and the Delegate Assembly reached differing conclusions on Proposal 20 which, if implemented, would divide KHSAA member schools into two divisions (public and non-public) for postseason play. The KBE also asked the group to revisit Proposal

3, which dealt with redistricting out-of-state students from athletic participation at KHSAA member schools, which also passed at the Delegate Assembly Meeting.

 

“The Kentucky Board of Education has directed the KHSAA Staff and Board to explore other compromise solutions within the body of the KHSAA Constitution and Bylaws that might achieve more equitable bylaws and eliminate perceived competitive inequities,” KHSAA Commissioner

DeVries stated. “We believe that this group can help provide a consensus for answers and report to the KHSAA Board and the KBE that our member schools hope to work through both issues.”

 

Monday’s meeting will be an open forum for the committee to hear remarks from representatives of KHSAA member schools. Each KHSAA member school was invited to attend and or submit information for the group to review. Tuesday’s meeting will include working sessions for the Task Force Committee.

 

The meeting will be facilitated by retired Kentucky Supreme Court Justice James E. Keller. Justice Keller served as Fayette Master Commissioner for seven years, Fayette Circuit Judge for 23 years and six years on the Kentucky Supreme Court.

-- KHSAA --

 

 

Thank All Play. From the lack of specifics in the KHSAA announcement is it fair to say that the actual Task Force make up is secret? If so, I guess it is hard to determine if actual parents of current and future student/atheletes are part of the make up.

 

As a parent, I am wary of the goals and objectives of coaches and atheletic directors in this task force. I hope that parents have a strong voice in the process.

I would venture to guess that parents have almost NO voice on this comittee unless some of the members just happen to have kids. Just like parents had NO voice on the delegate assembly vote.

Can someone go into detail one time for me about the feeder school deal? A link or own explanation will work, I just am having problems w/ it as I understand it now, and want to make sure my understanding of it is correct.

I have been told by the reporter covering this for the Courier Journal in Louisville that Jefferson County Public Schools and Archdiocese of Louisville schools would remain the same. The two systems are separate as far as "transfers" are concerned. Each Catholic grade school is considered to be a feeder school for all the Catholic schools in Jefferson County and the JCPS current system would be unchanged (open enrolment for the most part inside Jefferson County). Those living outside these systems(including out of state) and those who move between the two systems would be subject to the plan adopted. The public forces want the kids who change systems after 6th grade to be ineligible for two years for all sports at all levels(including frosh and JV) at the high school level. It wil be interesting to see what the retired judge suggests. Those who have a legitimate change of address from outside the system to inside the system would be subject to the rules already in place.

Remember, all of this is still subject to final approval by the Kentucky Board of Education.

See, if I understand what your saying correctly, than would that mean kids say in fayette co public middle schools be penalized for two years if they move to a private school? Because if this is the case than the city of Lexington will have problems w/ these defined feeder schools. I know many kids, athletes or not, from Lexington who go to Morton, Beumont, Jesse Clark, etc for middle school due to either school proximity to home, parents saving money for high school and above, or whatever. The parents plan on sending their kids to Lexington Catholic still. If this feeder school plan came into effect, the KHSAA is initially forcing parents to decide well in advance of high school where their children must go to school.

If parents are forced to only send their children to private(typically catholic) feeder schools to avoid athletic suspension, than the KHSAA is stealing a person's right to a free education. You can say, well why go public if your always planning on still going private for high school? The reasons though are there and people do this all the time in Lexington. Maybe they don't like the Private middle school in their area, saving money, etc. etc. I just find this a difficult concept.

Plus it should work the other way also, I know a good amount of people who went to private middle schools which feed into Lexington Catholic, yet decided to go to Public High Schools. Should they be penalized either?

Then I will rebuttle this statement, that the state high school system should have no say to where I send my kid to middle school and make me decide on the high school 3 years prior to his start.

;) No surprise to hear you make these comments. You have always wanted to make the rules as they best serve you and your beloved private schools and you care nothing at all about whats best for ALL schools both public/private. You and others like you will never be receptive to any sort of change for fear you will finally be held accountable.. :D

;) No surprise to hear you make these comments. You have always wanted to make the rules as they best serve you and your beloved private schools and you care nothing at all about whats best for ALL schools both public/private. You and others like you will never be receptive to any sort of change for fear you will finally be held accountable.. :D

 

 

How is it better for ALL schools to have students who have no desire to be there in their schools?

 

And what do you mean "held accountable"?

;) No surprise to hear you make these comments. You have always wanted to make the rules as they best serve you and your beloved private schools and you care nothing at all about whats best for ALL schools both public/private. You and others like you will never be receptive to any sort of change for fear you will finally be held accountable.. :D

 

Don't you get it, the problem w/ feeder schools isn't just for private schools. I know plenty of people who attended Mary Queen in Lexington, a private middle school, and yet went to Dunbar or Lafayette in High School and some were good athletes. One guy was all state soccer this year and has competed on Dunbar's team since he was a frosh. Should he be punished because his parents wanted him to go to a Public High School? Yet, if someone like him isn't punished for going from Private to Public, how is it fair to punish someone for going Public to Private?

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