Assault Rifle not used in Sandy Hook Shooting | American Live Wire

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HK8Z5K5M2Dw

 

This isn't about a conspiracy, just wondering that if this is true?

 

So many conflicting reports, but more and more it seems as if the consensus is growing that the Bushmaster was never used and was found in the car.

 

If true why the rush for the AWB? Left wing Gun Grab?

 

Read where he tried to buy his own gun and was denied, seems as if the system maybe was working. That's why he stole the guns.

Is anyone shocked? Really, from either side of the debate?

Just shows how the MSM and the left are united in their efforts to spread lies to the public to advance their agenda...

It really doesn't matter gentlemen. Firearms were used by a criminal to committ an illegal act. Trying to limit firearms will not limit an already illegal act. It doesn't matter which type of firarms were used. I own a Henry Goldenboy lever action .357 and two single action .357 revolvers that I shoot cowboy competition with. This same act could have easily been comitted with that set of weapons. The key is to uhold laws, like keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally insane. Gun control keeps guns out of the hands of people who follow the law, and its unconstitutional. When are these sheep going to wake up and see the real issue and statistics concerning the situation?

It really doesn't matter gentlemen. Firearms were used by a criminal to committ an illegal act. Trying to limit firearms will not limit an already illegal act. It doesn't matter which type of firarms were used. I own a Henry Goldenboy lever action .357 and two single action .357 revolvers that I shoot cowboy competition with. This same act could have easily been comitted with that set of weapons. The key is to uhold laws, like keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally insane. Gun control keeps guns out of the hands of people who follow the law, and its unconstitutional. When are these sheep going to wake up and see the real issue and statistics concerning the situation?

 

Really? You don't think if the possession an unregistered gun were made a capital crime that this would be a deterrent? Private gun sales are almost completely unregulated and untracked.

Assault Rifle not used in Sandy Hook Shooting*|*American Live Wire

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HK8Z5K5M2Dw

 

This isn't about a conspiracy, just wondering that if this is true?

 

So many conflicting reports, but more and more it seems as if the consensus is growing that the Bushmaster was never used and was found in the car.

 

If true why the rush for the AWB? Left wing Gun Grab?

 

Read where he tried to buy his own gun and was denied, seems as if the system maybe was working. That's why he stole the guns.

 

Jumper, I think this is a compilation of broadcasts from the first 24 to 48 hours and not current data. I don't know where you get that it is now a consensus the weapon mentioned wasn't used.

 

From the state police:

 

The primary weapon used in the attack was a "Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon," said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html

 

Check out the Snopes site from the other thread and you will see a long list of problems with the hoax people that are explained well. Any reporting done the first day or two was more speculation than factual investigation.

Really? You don't think if the possession an unregistered gun were made a capital crime that this would be a deterrent? Private gun sales are almost completely unregulated and untracked.

What do you consider registered?

 

There is a paper trail that can be followed if you have the guns serial number. There is no national data base that you can go into and enter my name and see what guns I own. Each store that I have purchased a gun at has a paper record of my purchase, but to see what I or most anyone owns, you would have to know where the gun was bought and when to find out what I bought.

Really? You don't think if the possession an unregistered gun were made a capital crime that this would be a deterrent? Private gun sales are almost completely unregulated and untracked.

 

So you want to kill an American that owns an unregistered gun? That will NEVER be on the table. Why not take something that brings much larger harm to society, like drug use, to that point before gun ownership. Why should they be regulated? I have bought many legal weapons through private gun sales. I have called in the serial number on every weapon I have bought, just to make sure it wasn't hot. I have never bought an illegal weapon and won't. However, this didn't require new laws or government assistance. It required following CURRENT laws that are already in place. It is my responsibility not to buy illegal or stolen property.

What do you consider registered?

 

There is a paper trail that can be followed if you have the guns serial number. There is no national data base that you can go into and enter my name and see what guns I own. Each store that I have purchased a gun at has a paper record of my purchase, but to see what I or most anyone owns, you would have to know where the gun was bought and when to find out what I bought.

 

You can have any police officer run a serial number check on a gun. It will show if it has been reported as "illegal," like being part of a crime or stolen. I can't believe someone thinks possession of a weapon should be a capital crime.

The State Police have already stated what guns were found in the school. A rifle (bushmaster) and two pistols were located in the school. A shotgun was found in the trunk of the car. These conspiracies are from people who choose to ignore those facts.

Jumper, I think this is a compilation of broadcasts from the first 24 to 48 hours and not current data. I don't know where you get that it is now a consensus the weapon mentioned wasn't used.

 

From the state police:

 

The primary weapon used in the attack was a "Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon," said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance.

 

Newtown shooter's guns: What we know - CNN.com

 

Check out the Snopes site from the other thread and you will see a long list of problems with the hoax people that are explained well. Any reporting done the first day or two was more speculation than factual investigation.

 

 

The link in my original post above the video is from last week, it does seem to be current information.

 

I'm not a hoax conspirator. It has been reported over and over that one Bushmaster and 2 to 4 pistols were all that were recovered. Then there is video of the rifle being removed from the trunk of his car...I question how it was used in the school and was still in the trunk.

 

I'm not really taking sides on this I really just asking how is this possible?

The State Police have already stated what guns were found in the school. A rifle (bushmaster) and two pistols were located in the school. A shotgun was found in the trunk of the car. These conspiracies are from people who choose to ignore those facts.

 

I have to ask again, why does it matter? A criminal committed an illegal act, and the answer provided is to take the tool used from law abiding citizens. It simply doesn't make sense.

So you want to kill an American that owns an unregistered gun? That will NEVER be on the table. Why not take something that brings much larger harm to society, like drug use, to that point before gun ownership. Why should they be regulated? I have bought many legal weapons through private gun sales. I have called in the serial number on every weapon I have bought, just to make sure it wasn't hot. I have never bought an illegal weapon and won't. However, this didn't require new laws or government assistance. It required following CURRENT laws that are already in place. It is my responsibility not to buy illegal or stolen property.

 

Your logic and reasoning are not correct. If you want to reduce gun violence, eliminate the war on drugs. And yes, I would support capital punishment for the possession of an unregistered automatic weapon.

 

The Single Best Anti-Gun-Death Policy? Ending the Drug War - Noah Smith - The Atlantic

Your logic and reasoning are not correct. If you want to reduce gun violence, eliminate the war on drugs. And yes, I would support capital punishment for the possession of an unregistered automatic weapon.

 

The Single Best Anti-Gun-Death Policy? Ending the Drug War - Noah Smith - The Atlantic

 

By your logic, why not just make drug use a capital crime? Also, when is the last time an unregistered automatic weapon was used in one of these shootings, or sold at a gun show for that matter?

The State Police have already stated what guns were found in the school. A rifle (bushmaster) and two pistols were located in the school. A shotgun was found in the trunk of the car. These conspiracies are from people who choose to ignore those facts.

 

You may be right, but the State Police spokesman the morning after the shooting said all guns were found in close proximity to the shooter and said nothing about any guns being found in the car. A least 1 long gun was found, hard to tell from over head video if it was an rifle or shotgun.