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It looks like that first debate is going to cost Obama the election!

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^That's just Ohio. I just don't buy into the talking point that he needs to win Ohio to win the election.

 

I agree but it gets real difficult for him if not even with Florida. He would have to flip a state that's voted Democratic in all but one presidential election since 1992 which would be Iowa in 04.

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I agree but it gets real difficult for him if not even with Florida. He would have to flip a state that's voted Democratic in all but one presidential election since 1992 which would be Iowa in 04.

 

No doubt it would be tough, but he's got a shot. I really think Wisconsin is there for the taking. I didn't think adding Rep. Ryan to the ticket would help that much, but it seems to have given him more than a fighter's chance there.

Romney's surge the past couple weeks sure has made things more interesting. If it continues the final two weeks then election night will be worth watching past 10pm.

Romney's surge the past couple weeks sure has made things more interesting. If it continues the final two weeks then election night will be worth watching past 10pm.

 

Are you able to stay up past 10:00 these days?

Romney's surge the past couple weeks sure has made things more interesting. If it continues the final two weeks then election night will be worth watching past 10pm.

 

Nothing will ever match November 2000. Crazy night.

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Nothing will ever match November 2000. Crazy night.

 

This one may be that close!

Is there more useless TV than watching a supporter of a candidate talk about where his/her candidate stands in their state?

Is there more useless TV than watching a supporter of a candidate talk about where his/her candidate stands in their state?

 

Yes. It's called the Daily Show.

I like Survey USA for accurate polling. They have Obama leading Romney by 3 in Ohio with both candidates gaining voters at an equal pace as the election nears.

 

As to whether Romney can win without winning Ohio, someone add up the electoral votes without Romney winning Ohio and make a case for Romney. I have been saying the past couple weeks that this may be another Bush Gore with the Democrat winning the electoral college this time. It is looking more plausible that happens.

I like Survey USA for accurate polling. They have Obama leading Romney by 3 in Ohio with both candidates gaining voters at an equal pace as the election nears.

 

As to whether Romney can win without winning Ohio, someone add up the electoral votes without Romney winning Ohio and make a case for Romney. I have been saying the past couple weeks that this may be another Bush Gore with the Democrat winning the electoral college this time. It is looking more plausible that happens.

 

If we assume (based on CNN's electoral map) that all states leaning Gov. Romney go Red and all leaning President Obama go blue, it's 237-206 President Obama with the toss-ups still to be added in. At this point, I'd be very surprised if Gov. Romney doesn't win Virginia and Florida, so let's add those to his total, giving him 248.

 

That leaves 6 states (Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Colorado).

 

Let's assume Ohio goes the way of the POTUS. That makes it 255-248 President Obama. Let's say Gov. Romney's surge in New Hampshire carries him to take the state. It's now 255-252. Let's also assume the tightening race out west delivers Gov. Romney Colorado. That squares it up 261-261 with Iowa and Wisconsin still in play. Win Wisconsin (which is a distinct possibility this year) and we've got a new POTUS.

If Romney/Ryan can't win Wisconsin...

Are you able to stay up past 10:00 these days?

 

Not very often, only when I get my nap ahead of time.

Nothing will ever match November 2000. Crazy night.

 

I saw a segment on Fox News Channel where someone said each side (Dems and Reps) has over 10,000 lawyers ready to do battle over various issues (voter fraud, early voting, voter IDs, etc) which could turn this election into having the equivalent of 6 Floridas with how close this election is supposed to be. I think no one will ever forget November/December 2000, but this could be worse if the reports are right.

My candidate is going to win because I found some polls that show him ahead in the states that matter, which are coincidentally the states that have polls showing my candidate leading.

If we assume (based on CNN's electoral map) that all states leaning Gov. Romney go Red and all leaning President Obama go blue, it's 237-206 President Obama with the toss-ups still to be added in. At this point, I'd be very surprised if Gov. Romney doesn't win Virginia and Florida, so let's add those to his total, giving him 248.

 

That leaves 6 states (Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Colorado).

 

Let's assume Ohio goes the way of the POTUS. That makes it 255-248 President Obama. Let's say Gov. Romney's surge in New Hampshire carries him to take the state. It's now 255-252. Let's also assume the tightening race out west delivers Gov. Romney Colorado. That squares it up 261-261 with Iowa and Wisconsin still in play. Win Wisconsin (which is a distinct possibility this year) and we've got a new POTUS.

 

Thank you. I keep seeing the talking heads saying it is all about Ohio and hadn't seen anyone lay out a winning path for Romney without Ohio. By the way Survey USA has Obama ahead by 2 points in Wisconsin. It is going to be fun on election night.

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