Simple question.

 

I gave you multiple answers. Clyde, we know it's not Obama's doing. Relax.

 

I would assign the debt number to the increase to it from the time President Obama came in office with a Democratic controlled senate and congress.

 

Obama, Clyde and the Dems want to have it both ways. It doesn't work that way.

 

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How much do you think that might be?

I gave you multiple answers. Clyde, we know it's not Obama's doing. Relax.

 

Classic MC response. Make a big generalization and then run and hide when someone challenges him.

Serious answer. When we spent and continue to spend money we didn't or don't have.

Classic MC response. Make a big generalization and then run and hide when someone challenges him.

 

So we don't have $16 trillion in debt? Is it a fact or not? Simple yes or no will do.

Serious answer. When we spent and continue to spend money we didn't or don't have.

 

So who are you upset with then?

So we don't have $16 trillion in debt? Is it a fact or not? Simple yes or no will do.

 

Never was a question.

So who are you upset with then?

 

You, just kidding. I think Bush put us on the path and we continue down it today.

You, just kidding. I think Bush put us on the path and we continue down it today.

 

Heck, Reagan put us on a bad path as well in regards to debt, right?

Heck, Reagan put us on a bad path as well in regards to debt, right?

 

And Lydon Johnson raided the Social Security Trust fund and FDR did some damage along the way. Forward, Clyde, Forward!

How much do you think that might be?

 

I will try to look it up, but those two years can be attributed to nobody but Obama and the Democrats...debt increased significantly during this time.

 

My question for you is what has Obama done well?

This isn't a party thing, it's a government spending thing. Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush 2, Obama, big spenders. Reagen, Bush 1, Clinton not so much so. The results speak for themselves.

Clyde-here is as best as I could do for you in limited time, and also trying to be fair showing both sides....

 

During the presidency of George W. Bush, debt held by the public increased from $3,339 billion in September 2001 to $6,369 billion by the end of 2008,[4][19] In the aftermath of the Global Financial Crisis, debt held by the public increased to $11.12 trillion by the end of July 2012 under the presidency of Barack Obama.[20][4]

Which policies and how?

 

The stimulus was a half hearted effort. I'd argue it should have been much bigger and we'd be a whole lot farther along in this recovery.

Clyde-here is as best as I could do for you in limited time, and also trying to be fair showing both sides....

 

During the presidency of George W. Bush, debt held by the public increased from $3,339 billion in September 2001 to $6,369 billion by the end of 2008,[4][19] In the aftermath of the Global Financial Crisis, debt held by the public increased to $11.12 trillion by the end of July 2012 under the presidency of Barack Obama.[20][4]

 

 

The problem is that you (seem to) assume that debt held today is NOT a product of previous decisions. That defies economic logic.

 

CBPP says that Bush tax cuts and two wars represent 50% of the debt we will owe in 2019. HALF! You can't look at it in a linear fashion ie President Bush left here and President Obama started here. The only way that would be true is IF on Jan 20, 2008 all of the spending and revenue that was created prior to that date was wiped out and we started over.

 

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So in other words I contend you guys are not using fact and economic logic to support your beliefs.