August 10, 201214 yr CBS Sports did a survey of D1 coaches as to who they think are the top cheaters. Cal came in at #1. Scott Drew came in at #2. I think Calhoun was on the list as was Tom Crean and a few others. Do people think Scott Drew cheats?
August 10, 201214 yr Without even looking at the full list, my guess would be that the list correlates directly to who brings in the most high-profile recruits year after year, regardless of any actual, foundational knowledge on rules violations.
August 10, 201214 yr Author Without even looking at the full list, my guess would be that the list correlates directly to who brings in the most high-profile recruits year after year, regardless of any actual, foundational knowledge on rules violations. Not necessarily. Roy isn't on the list. Coach K isn't. Self isn't.
August 10, 201214 yr Well, went ahead and looked up the list. Frankly, count me in with those that say every big-time coach is using whatever tricks are at his disposal to get good recruits and win games, but I can see justification for why people picked the way they did. Calipari - It's a survey and facts notwithstanding, the reputation he has is nearly universal. Drew - I get it. How else do you explain getting great recruits to come to Waco, Texas and go to Baylor? Howland - Direct result of his recruiting class from this year. Calhoun - Pretty much votes for himself doesn't he? Crean and Rice both only got three percent so whatever. As for Coach K, Williams and Self, the arguments have pretty much been that these programs have special significance and do a lot of the recruiting for themselves. I don't necessarily know how much I believe that to be true or Matt Dougherty would have done a lot better at UNC. Whatever, they all subvert the rules. You enjoy the games, hope your guy doesn't get caught, and try to think about the creepiness of the recruiting process as little as possible.
August 10, 201214 yr Author I've always felt all the big schools cheat. All of them. How many do "severe cheating?"
August 10, 201214 yr Not necessarily. Roy isn't on the list. Coach K isn't. Self isn't. Which is funny considering... Gifts were 'mistake,' Roy Williams says - College basketball- NBC Sports Truth About Duke - Encyclopedia - Myron Piggie I can't recall anything about Self though. And this line is priceless. Basically, folks just don't believe anybody could get the likes of Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans to Memphis -- or DeMarcus Cousins, Marquis Teague and Anthony Davis to Kentucky -- without some sort of assistance from somewhere. Are you kidding? You're saying its suspicious that top players would want to play for the greatest program in college basketball history? Seriously? Kentucky has been at the top of college basketball for over 60 years.
August 10, 201214 yr I've always felt all the big schools cheat. All of them. I agree with RP here...I'll bet they all cheat in some way, shape, or form. Any time $ is involved there is somebody trying to get theirs. IMO Calhoun tops any list...
August 10, 201214 yr Author I'm still fascinated with Drew always being mentioned. Why do we think he gets mentioned?
August 10, 201214 yr I don't mind Cal being at #1, it usually correlates with success and jealousy among other programs. Edited August 10, 201214 yr by sportsfan41
August 10, 201214 yr I'm still fascinated with Drew always being mentioned. Why do we think he gets mentioned? Because it's universally known that he cheats...:lol:
August 10, 201214 yr Author Because it's universally known that he cheats...:lol: But no evidence? Should we accept that as enough?
August 10, 201214 yr Author At least half. Purely a guess, though. Which half do you guess Cal is in?
August 10, 201214 yr Which half do you guess Cal is in? Let's just say I don't question for a second the Davis $200k story.
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