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Mike Trout: ROY and MVP?

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The Triple Crown is the hardest accolade for an individual hitter to accomplish. In this day and age to be able to lead the league in Average, HRs, and RBI is insane. Probably the most impressive baseball achievement I've ever seen in my lifetime. Factor in he's had a huge September, the most crucial, clutch month of the season, led his team to the postseason (while Trout has led his Angels to an early offseason), and played better than adequate defense after making a position switch this season, and it's a no brainer. Anyone voting for Trout is way too caught up in the whole "he's doing this as a rookie" thing.

 

The Angels were floundering before they brought up Trout (see what I did there - flounder - trout) so your contention of "leading to an early offseason" is not one of your better statements. Correct on it being a rare achievement. It's 3 offensive categories. Why do we give more credence to those 3? Are runs not important? Is a Gold Glove type season in CF not important?

 

The fact he's a rookie has nothing to do with the vote. It just makes his season more amazing.

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The Angels were floundering before they brought up Trout (see what I did there - flounder - trout) so your contention of "leading to an early offseason" is not one of your better statements. Correct on it being a rare achievement. It's 3 offensive categories. Why do we give more credence to those 3? Are runs not important? Is a Gold Glove type season in CF not important?

 

The fact he's a rookie has nothing to do with the vote. It just makes his season more amazing.

Ask that to whoever named the "Triple Crown" designation. There is a huge historical significance to what Cabrera is about ready to do and the appeal of that type of designation is hard to ignore/discredit.

 

Though I do agree with the premise of your post.

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And I just can't see someone coming this close to the triple crown and NOT getting the MVP.

 

Ask Ted Williams about that. Happened twice.

List of rookie MVP's: Fred Lynn and Ichiro

List of Triple Crown Winners: Carl Yastremzki, Frank Robinson, Mickey Mantle, Joe Medwick, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Chuck Klein, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb, Nap Lajoie, Tip O'Neill, Paul Hines.

Your opinion. Many will disagree with you. Cabrera has stepped up in the critical part of the season. Trout has been in a steady decline since the break.
It's a long season. April, May, June, July and August count, too.

 

Trout's numbers in August ... .284-7-19 in 28 games and 116 AB with 11 SB

Trout's numbers since 9/1 ... .283-5-9 in 28 games and 106 AB with 6 SB, not to mention the OBP close to .400

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Ask that to whoever named the "Triple Crown" designation. There is a huge historical significance to what Cabrera is about ready to do.

 

 

No question on the rarity of it.

 

Trout scores runs. That requires him to get on base and into position. He needs someone to knock him in.

Miggy knocks in runs. That requires someone to get on base so he can knock them in.

 

So why do we place more value on the act of knocking one in vs actually scoring? Seems like they're equally important. Miggy is 20 behind in runs despite playing 22 more games.

 

So, again, why are we placing more value on one stat?

List of rookie MVP's: Fred Lynn and Ichiro

List of Triple Crown Winners: Carl Yastremzki, Frank Robinson, Mickey Mantle, Joe Medwick, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Chuck Klein, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb, Nap Lajoie, Tip O'Neill, Paul Hines.

Has MLB always had a ROY award?

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Has MLB always had a ROY award?

 

1947

Nevermind, just looked. It started in '47 then in '49 made it a separate award for each league.

It's a long season. April, May, June, July and August count, too.

 

Trout's numbers in August ... .284-7-19 in 28 games and 116 AB with 11 SB

Trout's numbers since 9/1 ... .283-5-9 in 28 games and 106 AB with 6 SB, not to mention the OBP close to .400

 

May want to make sure your numbers are accurate next time.

 

He hit .254-5-6 in September.

(Cabrera) ... played better than adequate defense after making a position switch this season ...
Says who? He never was much of a third baseman, and he isn't now. It's a slight surprise that he lasted the year there.

Trout - April-July : .353-18-55

Cabrera - April-July : .322-25-85

Says who? He never was much of a third baseman, and he isn't now. It's a slight surprise that he lasted the year there.

 

Most of the guys who cover the sport for a living.

The Angels were floundering before they brought up Trout (see what I did there - flounder - trout) so your contention of "leading to an early offseason" is not one of your better statements. Correct on it being a rare achievement. It's 3 offensive categories. Why do we give more credence to those 3? Are runs not important? Is a Gold Glove type season in CF not important?

 

The fact he's a rookie has nothing to do with the vote. It just makes his season more amazing.

The Angels were 6-14 when Trout came up ... they're 89-71 now. Yeah, I would say he's had an impact.

 

Trout and flounder ... nice. :lol:

Most of the guys who cover the sport for a living.
Above average? Bull.

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