June 29, 201214 yr Not by Obama it wasn't. He flat out lied and said it wasn't a tax. Obama didn't lie . He didn't think it was a tax . Only a majority on the Supreme court does , and it only affects someone if they don't get some form of health insurance so basically it will be a self imposed "tax" on those who don't .
June 29, 201214 yr Not by Obama it wasn't. He flat out lied and said it wasn't a tax. You can use Hyperbole with the best of them can't you . Hyperbole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
June 29, 201214 yr I'm not sure if the majority would or not. But, the question I find most perplexing is, why is the single-payer system the Republican solution? Honest question. It seems to go against the Republican philosophy, yet here I read the part of the AHCA that was countributed by them could be what propels us to this solution. Where have you read that the Republican solution is a single-payer system?
June 29, 201214 yr Author Where have you read that the Republican solution is a single-payer system? Republicans Hatched Idea for Obama's Health Insurance Mandate | Fox News
June 29, 201214 yr Obama didn't lie . He didn't think it was a tax . Only a majority on the Supreme court does, and it only affects someone if they don't get some form of health insurance so basically it will be a self imposed "tax" on those who don't . Self imposed tax? So you're saying all of us won't be paying for this? I'm pretty sure that's quite mistaken...
June 29, 201214 yr Republicans Hatched Idea for Obama's Health Insurance Mandate | Fox News It's The Tea Party Libertarians that have co-opted the Republican Party that are against it and have cowered reasonable Republicans .
June 29, 201214 yr Self imposed tax? So you're saying all of us won't be paying for this? I'm pretty sure that's quite mistaken... How So . We as a family have health insurance that we are paying for . how will I have to pay the Penalty ?
June 29, 201214 yr It's The Tea Party Libertarians that have co-opted the Republican Party that are against it and have cowered reasonable Republicans . Serious question, are the Tea Partiers considered Libertarians? I always had the impression that Libertarians are more moderate.
June 29, 201214 yr Serious question, are the Tea Partiers considered Libertarians? I always had the impression that Libertarians are more moderate. They share much of the platform for economic liberalization, but the Tea Party tends to carry with it the emphasis on social conservatism that Libertarians reject. That's my understanding anyway.
June 29, 201214 yr How so? We as a family have health insurance that we are paying for. How will I have to pay the penalty? The penalties for not having healthcare are not anywhere near what is necessary to pay for this. This is not a "you're only going to be taxed for it if you use it" kind of situation. Summary of tax increases: Broaden Medicare tax base for high-income taxpayers: $210.2 billion Annual fee on health insurance providers: $60 billion 40% excise tax on health coverage in excess of $10,200/$27,500: $32 billion Impose annual fee on manufacturers and importers of branded drugs: $27 billion Impose 2.3% excise tax on manufacturers and importers of certain medical devices: $20 billion Raise 7.5% Adjusted Gross Income floor on medical expenses deduction to 10%: $15.2 billion Limit contributions to flexible spending arrangements in cafeteria plans to $2,500: $13 billion All other revenue sources: $14.9 billion Original budget estimates included a provision to require information reporting on payments to corporations, which had been projected to raise $17 billion, but the provision was repealed.
June 29, 201214 yr How so? We as a family have health insurance that we are paying for. How will I have to pay the penalty? The penalties for not having healthcare are not anywhere near what is necessary to pay for this. This is not a "you're only going to be taxed for it if you use it" kind of situation. Summary of tax increases: Broaden Medicare tax base for high-income taxpayers: $210.2 billion Annual fee on health insurance providers: $60 billion 40% excise tax on health coverage in excess of $10,200/$27,500: $32 billion Impose annual fee on manufacturers and importers of branded drugs: $27 billion Impose 2.3% excise tax on manufacturers and importers of certain medical devices: $20 billion Raise 7.5% Adjusted Gross Income floor on medical expenses deduction to 10%: $15.2 billion Limit contributions to flexible spending arrangements in cafeteria plans to $2,500: $13 billion All other revenue sources: $14.9 billion Original budget estimates included a provision to require information reporting on payments to corporations, which had been projected to raise $17 billion, but the provision was repealed. I would specifically look to tax increases on medical devices and pharmaceuticals, as well as the excise tax on health care exceeding $10,200. YOU AND I, the tax payers with our individual health insurance plans will be paying higher taxes on the medicine and medical devices used in our health care. As for anyone who stays in the hospital more than one night, they will have the "health care exceeding $10,200" covered" - easy. My brother just received his $24,000 bill for having an emergency appendectomy. That will be taxed too. Pretty much any non-outpatient medical procedure will essentially be falling into this taxation category. These are all ways that YOU and I will be paying for everyone else's healthcare...for example, their abortions, among other things. I, as a Catholic, find this in particular to be abhorrent.
June 29, 201214 yr I would specifically look to tax increases on medical devices and pharmaceuticals, as well as the excise tax on health care exceeding $10,200. YOU AND I, the tax payers with our individual health insurance plans will be paying higher taxes on the medicine and medical devices used in our health care. As for anyone who stays in the hospital more than one night, they will have the "health care exceeding $10,200" covered" - easy. My brother just received his $24,000 bill for having an emergency appendectomy. That will be taxed too. Pretty much any non-outpatient medical procedure will essentially be falling into this taxation category. These are all ways that YOU and I will be paying for everyone else's healthcare...for example, their abortions, among other things. I, as a Catholic, find this in particular to be abhorrent. If this helps one person get health care that doesn't have it now I am willing to pay the seemingly minimal taxes that I will have to pay to accomplish that . I am not selfish and self centered like the people that are against this bill
June 29, 201214 yr Author If this helps one person get health care that doesn't have it now I am willing to pay the seemingly minimal taxes that I will have to pay to accomplish that . I am not selfish and self centered like the people that are against this bill I lean your way in the thought of helping pay for others. However, I think your generalization as to why people are against the bill is unfair. Some are guilty. Some are against it for other reasons.
June 29, 201214 yr And as a Catholic I too will fight the abortion and birth control mandate as it is written
June 29, 201214 yr I lean your way in the thought of helping pay for others. However, I think your generalization as to why people are against the bill is unfair. Some are guilty. Some are against it for other reasons. Yes Some Only Because Obama proposed this reform legislation and some because they are in the pockets of the insurance Companies .
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