Big O had the misfortune to play his first 9-10 years during the Boston Celtics great run. Oscar for me and it's not even close.

Big O had the misfortune to play his first 9-10 years during the Boston Celtics great run. Oscar for me and it's not even close.

 

I lean towards Magic but I would never use the # of championships won as a metric.

How many titles did the Big O play for?

 

What is the answer to the question how come the Big O didn't win more championships?

 

Magic won 5 titles and he won them against some of the best Celtic teams ever and some of the best Pistons teams ever. He went up against Bird, McHale, Isaiah and the Bad Boys, helped retire Dr. J. He baptized John Stockton and Karl Malone. His rookie year(correct me if I am wrong) he filled in at center when Kareem went down because of a sprained ankle and carried the Lakers to the title. He added arguably 3-5 years to Kareem's career. He made James Worthy actually worthy. He made Byron Scott above average. He made Michael Cooper and Kurt Rambis the most reliable bench players in the 80's. He was a 6'9" point guard who truly was magical. I understand Big O was the true triple double king but at the end of the day point guards are judged by how they lead a team, can they make those around them better and can they win. What point guard did those things better than Magic? It took the greatest player of all time and HIV to stop Magic. Magic at the point all day for me.

 

 

The answer is Magic, always has and always will be. The real reason they were known as the "showtime" Lakers.

I lean towards Magic but I would never use the # of championships won as a metric.

 

Not even a little bit? Overall success should play into it somehow shouldn't it?

 

And yes, I have Lebron at SF. He's still playing and he is at 3 Finals appearances now and his teams have paled in comparison to what Bird played with. Especially Cleveland and Miami sucks pretty bad after you get past Bosh. That being said I do expect Lebron to win multiple rings.

Not even a little bit? Overall success should play into it somehow shouldn't it?

 

And yes, I have Lebron at SF. He's still playing and he is at 3 Finals appearances now and his teams have paled in comparison to what Bird played with. Especially Cleveland and Miami sucks pretty bad after you get past Bosh. That being said I do expect Lebron to win multiple rings.

 

I have no problem how each comes to his/her conclusion, that's what makes this site fun, but you changed from Russell with his wagonload of championships to Chamberlin with his two?

I have no problem how each comes to his/her conclusion, that's what makes this site fun, but you changed from Russell with his wagonload of championships to Chamberlin with his two?

 

I thought Chamberlin had none and I also incorrectly thought that Russell dominated Chamberlin in head to head matchups. That's mainly why I asked the questions about Chamberlin because I sincerely didn't know. Same for the Big O. I witnessed Magic. I never saw the Big O and know nothing of him other than he was the triple double king. That's why I ask if the Big O won any titles and if not why not? Did he play in any finals?

Not even a little bit? Overall success should play into it somehow shouldn't it?

 

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If it was a one-on-one championship I'd use them.

If it was a one-on-one championship I'd use them.

 

So who is your SF then?

So who is your SF then?

 

Bird gets the nod over LBJ.

Bird gets the nod over LBJ.

 

I'd pay money to see that one-on-one matchup. If it was possible to make it with both in their primes obviously. I lean towards LBJ but Bird is definitely good enough and crafty enough to win. Plus we just saw Pierce knock one from deep in LBJ's eye. If Pierce can do it once Bird can do it five times.

I'd pay money to see that one-on-one matchup. If it was possible to make it with both in their primes obviously. I lean towards LBJ but Bird is definitely good enough and crafty enough to win. Plus we just saw Pierce knock one from deep in LBJ's eye. If Pierce can do it once Bird can do it five times.

 

It's close but Bird's intangibles put him ahead( and I'm a LBJ fan).

It's close but Bird's intangibles put him ahead( and I'm a LBJ fan).

 

I agree on the intangibles. Bird would tell you what he was going to do and then do it.

I thought Chamberlin had none and I also incorrectly thought that Russell dominated Chamberlin in head to head matchups. That's mainly why I asked the questions about Chamberlin because I sincerely didn't know. Same for the Big O. I witnessed Magic. I never saw the Big O and know nothing of him other than he was the triple double king. That's why I ask if the Big O won any titles and if not why not? Did he play in any finals?

 

He won one in Milwaukee with Alcindor. If I remember the 60's correctly, when the Royals made the playoffs they would get knocked out by the Celtics or Wilt's Philadelphia team. I recall a couple series with the Celtics going right down to the last game.

Bird gets the nod over LBJ.

 

I'd pay money to see that one-on-one matchup. If it was possible to make it with both in their primes obviously. I lean towards LBJ but Bird is definitely good enough and crafty enough to win. Plus we just saw Pierce knock one from deep in LBJ's eye. If Pierce can do it once Bird can do it five times.

 

I too chose Bird. But I think 3-5 years from now, I choose LBJ.

How many titles did the Big O play for?

 

What is the answer to the question how come the Big O didn't win more championships?

 

Magic won 5 titles and he won them against some of the best Celtic teams ever and some of the best Pistons teams ever. He went up against Bird, McHale, Isaiah and the Bad Boys, helped retire Dr. J. He baptized John Stockton and Karl Malone. His rookie year(correct me if I am wrong) he filled in at center when Kareem went down because of a sprained ankle and carried the Lakers to the title. He added arguably 3-5 years to Kareem's career. He made James Worthy actually worthy. He made Byron Scott above average. He made Michael Cooper and Kurt Rambis the most reliable bench players in the 80's. He was a 6'9" point guard who truly was magical. I understand Big O was the true triple double king but at the end of the day point guards are judged by how they lead a team, can they make those around them better and can they win. What point guard did those things better than Magic? It took the greatest player of all time and HIV to stop Magic. Magic at the point all day for me.

 

I couldn't agree more! The man was pure greatness.