I think it has come pretty clear that there are certain people who simply have a problem with kids playing football in the feeder programs for one high school and then going to high school at another school. They don't seem to want to understand a different position or perspective on the matter - they want to have a problem.

 

The irony that I'm seeing is that people from the most successful feeder program in the state, the Fort Thomas Junior Football League, seem to have no problem with this at all. They have undoubtedly put time and effort into developing the skills of many of New Cath's, Campbell County's, Cov Cath's, Beechwood's players over the years, as well as players from a handful of other schools, yet their perspective is that "it's all part of the process". Cov Cath folks such as myself, with our Covington Catholic Youth Football program, seem to share the same perspective as the folks from Highlands. Maybe if people didn't try to approach things with such a stronghanded sense of obligation, and maybe if they didn't determine themselves to force middle school kids to commit to high school sports as 11 year olds, they would have a little better return on their investments.

 

Another note, if Simon Kenton is going to complain about kids from the South Kenton team not attending their school, perhaps they should start some proper feeder system teams instead. The fact that the South Kenton NKYFL district closely surrounds their school is not necessarily reason for them to expect those players to go their school.

That's good info, thanks for sharing. Guess I should do some research rather than listen to rumors, had not heard specifics.

 

Hmm...That might help before you,,,,well make yourself look like you already have.:popcorn:

High Schools typically become engaged with a youth program at the 6th grade level. By that time, decisions should be made. Brayden Combs has been at Beechwood since 09, as a sixth grader. He started paying freshman ball as a seventh grader. Your anti Kenton County School District sentiments are well documented. Why wait so long?

 

I understand Ethan wanting to be his buddy. My son wanted to be with his at Simon after a miserable middle school experience. If this decision has nothing to do with the Brights, then I consider the issue dropped and wish Ethan and Brayden luck. Tell Jason Combs we said hello.

 

Had everything to do with the Bright's daddy. Like a lot of people have said, if you don't want to be part of a program and transfer to the one of the "independents", but imo, put your house up for sale and move there.

I agree.

 

If you analyzed where kids go from the different youth teams and leagues, you would find that kids have gone to different high schools from programs for at least the last three decades. Red Devils have supplied players to NC, Cambell, etc. Spartans have sent kids to teams thoughout Kenton (Cov Cath, BW, ect.). This must be an issue because it seems to be a hot topic. But, I can't believe people think kids should be "loyal" to a high school because they played in a certain league or in a certain program.

 

Parents will pursue what they think is the best option for their kids. It's not being disloyal. It's being intelligent.

 

 

When you say the Red Devils have supplied players to NCC, Campbell Co.,ETC. I think ETC=Highlands. Hasn't there been a lot of kids from the Devils go to HHS over the last 10 years?

I think it has come pretty clear that there are certain people who simply have a problem with kids playing football in the feeder programs for one high school and then going to high school at another school. They don't seem to want to understand a different position or perspective on the matter - they want to have a problem.

 

The irony that I'm seeing is that people from the most successful feeder program in the state, the Fort Thomas Junior Football League, seem to have no problem with this at all. They have undoubtedly put time and effort into developing the skills of many of New Cath's, Campbell County's, Cov Cath's, Beechwood's players over the years, as well as players from a handful of other schools, yet their perspective is that "it's all part of the process". Cov Cath folks such as myself, with our Covington Catholic Youth Football program, seem to share the same perspective as the folks from Highlands. Maybe if people didn't try to approach things with such a stronghanded sense of obligation, and maybe if they didn't determine themselves to force middle school kids to commit to high school sports as 11 year olds, they would have a little better return on their investments.

 

Another note, if Simon Kenton is going to complain about kids from the South Kenton team not attending their school, perhaps they should start some proper feeder system teams instead. The fact that the South Kenton NKYFL district closely surrounds their school is not necessarily reason for them to expect those players to go their school.

 

When a school is 3 and 4 deep at every position they are not going to be sensitive to a few kids leaving their youth program. This is not the case with public school programs. SK has been heavily engaged in the local NKYFL team. I would not expect youth coaches to take off with their kids to other programs anymore than you would expect your freshman coach to take off with his kids to another program.

When a school is 3 and 4 deep at every position they are not going to be sensitive to a few kids leaving their youth program. This is not the case with public school programs. SK has been heavily engaged in the local NKYFL team. I would not expect youth coaches to take off with their kids to other programs anymore than you would expect your freshman coach to take off with his kids to another program.

 

And yet, since you have not answered my question several times, you do not expect the same loyalty from the high school football programs towards the players who stuck it out in that feeder program. Why not?

And yet, since you have not answered my question several times, you do not expect the same loyalty from the high school football programs towards the players who stuck it out in that feeder program. Why not?

 

It's kind of like employment contracts - there are always one sided to the employer. The bureacracy always wins. The kids/players are expected to show some loyalty, but when Johnny who runs a 4.37 transfers in, he will get top billing over Larry whom runs a 4.7 and has been an ardent and loyal supporter of the coach and his program for years.

 

But I do see your point.

And yet, since you have not answered my question several times, you do not expect the same loyalty from the high school football programs towards the players who stuck it out in that feeder program. Why not?

 

If football, unless there is a disciplinary or character issue involved, the best player plays. Period. There are exceptions in some development programs, but not many. This is especially true for the privates and independents who are under more pressure to win because enrollments can be closely correlated with success on a football field.

 

One of the things that is not done in football is that there are no cuts. Everyone who shows up and follows the rules is allowed to participate. No coach is ever going to tell you that your child is really not gifted for this sport and maybe you should consider investing the time elsewhere. While this may seem cold, it is in my opinion the most humane. Football at the varsity level is a 10 month a year commitment. If a child is not gifted for the sport, as a parent, one must consider what are options for investing the time. My younger son is nether gifted nor passionate about football but was pushed into it because it was what his older brother was doing. He played three years, but it was clear he needed to do something else. He is swimming full time now.

When you say the Red Devils have supplied players to NCC, Campbell Co.,ETC. I think ETC=Highlands. Hasn't there been a lot of kids from the Devils go to HHS over the last 10 years?

 

The Red Devil kids have gone to Highlands, Cov Cath, New Cath, Campbell, Brossart.

When a school is 3 and 4 deep at every position they are not going to be sensitive to a few kids leaving their youth program. This is not the case with public school programs. SK has been heavily engaged in the local NKYFL team. I would not expect youth coaches to take off with their kids to other programs anymore than you would expect your freshman coach to take off with his kids to another program.

 

1) Maybe they need to put forth effort into making their team 3 or 4 deep. Give kids cause to want to stay at Simon Kenton. One of FTJFL's draws is the fact that every kid has a required, set amount of playing time (and the development inherent with it). NKYFL has no such rule. I hated my time in the NKYFL...you know why? I didn't ever get playing time. I wasn't the greatest of athletes, and make no claim to be...but I played 6 years of NKYFL football, and rarely saw an entire quarter of play in a game. In hind sight, I would have LOVED to play in the FTJFL for that reason alone.

 

2) "Heavily engaged" does not make the South Kenton program SIMON KENTON'S PROGRAM. Say what you will, but heavily engaged does not have the same effect as "this is Simon Kenton's feeder program". I'm also slightly surprised that the NKYFL doesn't take serious issue with Simon Kenton being so "heavily engaged" with one of their programs. Besides, anyone that doesn't see that the NKYFL is a slowly sinking ship really needs to take a harder look at the writing on the wall.

Edited June 11, 201214 yr by Colonels_Wear_Blue

1) Maybe they need to put forth effort into making their team 3 or 4 deep. Give kids cause to want to stay at Simon Kenton. One of FTJFL's draws is the fact that every kid has a required, set amount of playing time (and the development inherent with it). NKYFL has no such rule. I hated my time in the NKYFL...you know why? I didn't ever get playing time. I wasn't the greatest of athletes, and make no claim to be...but I played 6 years of NKYFL football, and rarely saw an entire quarter of play in a game. In hind sight, I would have LOVED to play in the FTJFL for that reason alone.

 

2) "Heavily engaged" does not make the South Kenton program SIMON KENTON'S PROGRAM. Say what you will, but heavily engaged does not have the same effect as "this is Simon Kenton's feeder program". I'm also slightly surprised that the NKYFL doesn't take serious issue with Simon Kenton being so "heavily engaged" with one of their programs. Besides, anyone that doesn't see that the NKYFL is a slowly sinking ship really needs to take a harder look at the writing on the wall.

 

The Boone leagues also operate under the premise that the best kid plays. But by the 5th grade, the rosters are down to about 25 kids so there is playing time available to all. Kenton County Middle School ball was by far the most developmental in nature. My youngest saw playing time there that was not merited by his ability or perforance on the field/practice. It was however, way more demanding than NKYFL or BCPWFL in that there was up to 15 hr per week of practice as opposed to 8 in the Boone League.

 

You can't get to 3 or 4 deep if half or more of best prospects are leaving. If you look at any public school program , from kids 1 - 15 they are not far from the privates/independents. Its from kids 16 - 50 where those schools have a tremendous advantage.

God forbid that any of these kids want to go to Beechwood because if their national ranking academically and the enhancement of college choices and scholarships.

1) Maybe they need to put forth effort into making their team 3 or 4 deep. Give kids cause to want to stay at Simon Kenton. One of FTJFL's draws is the fact that every kid has a required, set amount of playing time (and the development inherent with it). NKYFL has no such rule. I hated my time in the NKYFL...you know why? I didn't ever get playing time. I wasn't the greatest of athletes, and make no claim to be...but I played 6 years of NKYFL football, and rarely saw an entire quarter of play in a game. In hind sight, I would have LOVED to play in the FTJFL for that reason alone.

 

2) "Heavily engaged" does not make the South Kenton program SIMON KENTON'S PROGRAM. Say what you will, but heavily engaged does not have the same effect as "this is Simon Kenton's feeder program". I'm also slightly surprised that the NKYFL doesn't take serious issue with Simon Kenton being so "heavily engaged" with one of their programs. Besides, anyone that doesn't see that the NKYFL is a slowly sinking ship really needs to take a harder look at the writing on the wall.

 

You are mistaken about the NKYFL.

We had to tell some organizations that there was not any more openings this year.

This year there is 12 organizations in the NKYFL. The most ever.

11 Senior teams.13 & 14 year olds The most ever.

12 Junior Teams11 & 12 year olds

12 Junior Youth Division Teams10 & 11 most ever

11 Midget Teams 9 year olds

11 Pee Wee Teams 8 year olds, most ever

11 Starter Teams 6 & 7 year olds

We are also playing interleague games with the Boone County Youth Football League.

Weeks 1,3 and 5.

After our Super Bowl we will play the champions of BCYFL for a Grand Champion of Northern Ky.

It's kind of like employment contracts - there are always one sided to the employer. The bureacracy always wins. The kids/players are expected to show some loyalty, but when Johnny who runs a 4.37 transfers in, he will get top billing over Larry whom runs a 4.7 and has been an ardent and loyal supporter of the coach and his program for years.

 

But I do see your point.

 

I agree, except no contract is involved. In my mind if you're going to expect loyalty, be prepared to give loyalty. In my opinion the better player should play and any player should be able to leave for a school the player and parents believe is a better school for them. Within the rules set by the ruling organization.

1) Maybe they need to put forth effort into making their team 3 or 4 deep. Give kids cause to want to stay at Simon Kenton. One of FTJFL's draws is the fact that every kid has a required, set amount of playing time (and the development inherent with it). NKYFL has no such rule. I hated my time in the NKYFL...you know why? I didn't ever get playing time. I wasn't the greatest of athletes, and make no claim to be...but I played 6 years of NKYFL football, and rarely saw an entire quarter of play in a game. In hind sight, I would have LOVED to play in the FTJFL for that reason alone.

 

2) "Heavily engaged" does not make the South Kenton program SIMON KENTON'S PROGRAM. Say what you will, but heavily engaged does not have the same effect as "this is Simon Kenton's feeder program". I'm also slightly surprised that the NKYFL doesn't take serious issue with Simon Kenton being so "heavily engaged" with one of their programs. Besides, anyone that doesn't see that the NKYFL is a slowly sinking ship really needs to take a harder look at the writing on the wall.

 

 

I do know South Kenton has new coaches this year.