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Transitioning from youth football to High School, is self interest the only concern?

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That's easy j. How many kids and coaches in the youth/feeder program? Let's just say 50. So one or two go to another school. You still have 48 or 49 people who you supported who are joining your school. No one wins them all. No one. As I have said before, every high school loses kids to other schools. Beechwood loses kids. Highlands loses kids. The privates lose out on kids to each other and yes, sometimes to a public school. You have to EXPECT to lose kids. It is going to happen. Focus on the kids that are with you./

 

Blah blah blah. So far in this thread(or maybe the other one) you have blatantly broken rule 5 of this forum, even though you were wrong, by incorrectly pegging me as Mr. Stringer. You have indirectly broken rule 4 by discussing where players live and where they play. It is clear you have an axe to grind with BW and Cov Cath. Maybe you should take a look at the Kenton County Schools at look at maybe the parents want something better for their kids academically? KCS currently has 11 openings for principals. That is eye opening. Test scores are abysmal. Grad rates are poor. Bottom line, they are broken. I get that if you take the top 10% out of the schools they are pretty equal, but its the rest of the students that suffer at schools like SK that have such poor teacher to student ratios. Look at ACT scores at each school, and if doesn't open your eyes then academics has no place in your view. As for Ethan, maybe he didn't know where he was going to school up until a couple weeks ago? Maybe the decisions aren't as corrupt as they are in your eyes? Do you know him or his family? I do, and they are as straight forward as they come. It was made clear several months ago to all coaches and anyone else that another school was a possibility, and he was encouraged to continue to work out with SK as long as he wanted. And for the record, I know that Miles Simpson played for the Raiders as a youth. I have no idea where they live or lived, but that suggests he may have lived in either the Scott or Dixie district, yet went to SK. That was my point about the open enroll aspect, but that hurts your argument so you simply blew it off with "Scott names their field a soccer complex". Seems you have simply gotten your feelings hurt and have lost some good players, and are lashing out. Move on man, move on. If a school the size of SK is hurt by losing a couple players, perhaps they should look in the mirror and see they, as a program, need to make some changes.

 

Just to shed a little light on the 11 principal openings in KCS.

 

4 principals are retiring

1 resigned due to the death of his father

2 are moving to central office positions

1 principal is moving to an associate principal roll to spend more time at home with her sick mother

1 resigned to spend more time at home with his 3 daughters.

 

that leaves 2 opens left that I am not sure about.

 

 

Imhisdad - you are correct that at last count 11 principal jobs are open in KCS. Throwing that out there as "Window Shocking" or to get a "wow" factor was a good note to the point in your post, however it is a little misleading without the backup information. Not hassling you over your post, you make some very good points in your post.

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That's good info, thanks for sharing. Guess I should do some research rather than listen to rumors, had not heard specifics.

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Just to shed a little light on the 11 principal openings in KCS.

 

4 principals are retiring

1 resigned due to the death of his father

2 are moving to central office positions

1 principal is moving to an associate principal roll to spend more time at home with her sick mother

1 resigned to spend more time at home with his 3 daughters.

 

that leaves 2 opens left that I am not sure about.

 

 

Imhisdad - you are correct that at last count 11 principal jobs are open in KCS. Throwing that out there as "Window Shocking" or to get a "wow" factor was a good note to the point in your post, however it is a little misleading without the backup information. Not hassling you over your post, you make some very good points in your post.

 

I have two kids in KCS. They have respectively, 3.73 and 3.55 averages. Perhaps you put too much burden on your kid's academic achievement on teachers and administrators, rather than the kids themselves.

Open enrollment was intended to allow students to attend schools that better met their interests and strengths. The focus was on academics, not athletics. Scott never really made a real commitment to football. When they got upgraded facilities, the named the stadium as a "SOCCER COMPLEX". If you want to swim though, Scott is the place to be.

 

So "Eagle Stadium" means it's a soccer complex?? Soccer has it's own field at Scott, and does not play many games at the new Stadium.

What if Mr Stringer did not want to play footbal this year? What if he stayed at Sk? What if he did not play at another school?

Does that give Simon Kenton HS the right to stop helping South Kenton?

Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, they would do the right think and just keep helping kids. Does it matter if they play for SK, if they don't play at all, or play some where else.

 

Just help the kids. The goal is to make them better people. Teach them leason that they can carry with them thru lifes journey.

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What if Mr Stringer did not want to play footbal this year? What if he stayed at Sk? What if he did not play at another school?

Does that give Simon Kenton HS the right to stop helping South Kenton?

Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, they would do the right think and just keep helping kids. Does it matter if they play for SK, if they don't play at all, or play some where else.

 

Just help the kids. The goal is to make them better people. Teach them leason that they can carry with them thru lifes journey.

 

Please read the Beechwood thread for context. When a coach of a feeder program takes his kids elsewhere, I for one would have to reevaluate the relationship with the feeder program. Kids that have made the commitment to a varsity program merit priority over those that are being shopped to other programs.

 

Mr. Stringer is really not a issue here but a consequence of a youth coach who, in my view, betrayed trust and confidence.

 

So you believe your child is entitled to support from SK while you plan his career at Beechwood?

I've asked before, what is your solution?

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I've asked before, what is your solution?

 

Put kids in the youth program of your school of choice, or, in a youth program unaffiliated with a high school program.

Put kids in the youth program of your school of choice, or, in a youth program unaffiliated with a high school program.

 

How does that stop kids from going to a different high school?

Put kids in the youth program of your school of choice, or, in a youth program unaffiliated with a high school program.

 

So when Little Billy is 6 and ready for starters, parents are supposed to commit to that high school? Aren't youth programs around here geographically designed? My son, if he were to play football, will have to play for The Spartans, from what I understand. I hate to keep going back to a specific scenario, but you continue to imply that Ethan went to Beechwood because of the Brights. I can assure you that was not even in the decision process. That goes all the way back to when the Combs family decided to enroll from Ryland Heights to BW. Those two boys are like brothers, have been since 1st grade, and they are now playing together in summer baseball for Midland. Ethan almost left with them after 5th grade, but his father encouraged him to stay in KC schools until he was sure that was what he wanted to do.

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How does that stop kids from going to a different high school?

 

It does not, but it does put pressure on parents to make those choices earlier. And if your intent is to play at Cov Cath, Highlands or Beechwood, then would it not be better for all to grow up in that system? My understanding is that Ryle requires parents to sign a statement of commitment to participate in their youth program and I believe this is reasonable.

 

I do believe though there are circumstances that do merit considering a transfer. If there are issues of character in a program or if there is no chance of playing time. Using Ryle as an example again, they had 3 8th grade youth teams in their league last year and will have more from the Boone leagues. They could have 100 kids show up to play freshman ball this year who are all accustomed to significant playing time.

 

In South Kenton County we have tremendous rural poverty. Simon Kenton resources will never be that of Beechwood or Cov Cath or Highlands. There are a lot of folks out here that cannot afford to send their kids to those schools. Parents need to be sensitized to the lost opportunity for kids that don't have these choices when they choose to go elsewhere.

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So when Little Billy is 6 and ready for starters, parents are supposed to commit to that high school? Aren't youth programs around here geographically designed? My son, if he were to play football, will have to play for The Spartans, from what I understand. I hate to keep going back to a specific scenario, but you continue to imply that Ethan went to Beechwood because of the Brights. I can assure you that was not even in the decision process. That goes all the way back to when the Combs family decided to enroll from Ryland Heights to BW. Those two boys are like brothers, have been since 1st grade, and they are now playing together in summer baseball for Midland. Ethan almost left with them after 5th grade, but his father encouraged him to stay in KC schools until he was sure that was what he wanted to do.

 

High Schools typically become engaged with a youth program at the 6th grade level. By that time, decisions should be made. Brayden Combs has been at Beechwood since 09, as a sixth grader. He started paying freshman ball as a seventh grader. Your anti Kenton County School District sentiments are well documented. Why wait so long?

 

I understand Ethan wanting to be his buddy. My son wanted to be with his at Simon after a miserable middle school experience. If this decision has nothing to do with the Brights, then I consider the issue dropped and wish Ethan and Brayden luck. Tell Jason Combs we said hello.

 

I have two kids in KCS. They have respectively, 3.73 and 3.55 averages. Perhaps you put too much burden on your kid's academic achievement on teachers and administrators, rather than the kids themselves.

 

1. I am not sure why you are making your point against my post. I was merely posting as to why 11 principal positions were open in KCS this year.

 

2. Based on your post, do parents not have the largest amount of accountability in academic achievement? Do you know how many parents I deal with that don't even know what teachers their student has, what bus number they ride, who the administrators are at their school. You would be surprise.

Put kids in the youth program of your school of choice, or, in a youth program unaffiliated with a high school program.

 

So is that high school then going to play those players over someone who might transfer in, even if that transfer is a better player? Or do you only see loyalty as a one way street?

It isn't about where the kid goes, it is about the little Jimmy's and the Joe's.

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