Perhaps you could use those yourself when you are blaming the popo for all your problems.

 

I actually don't have any problems, currently. Feel free to run my record, officer. :thumb:

It took exactly 3 posts before someone threw out an insult towards the police. They're lazy because they don't enforce a law that is almost impossible to enforce?

 

If they ask to see the persons cell phone and that person says no...then what?

 

So then tell me how does a police officer give a ticket out for running a traffic light, or running a stop sign. It boils down to your word that you didn't to his word that you did! They don't all have video capability in their cars now do they?

In those cases the police officer has the independent ability to prove every element of the violation from start to finish.

Personally I think it's an unnecessary law even if it could be enforced. If you're driving recklessly you should be be cited for it. I don't think we need another law to handle that.

 

I actually don't have any problems, currently. Feel free to run my record, officer. :thumb:

 

Im sure the police will violate your civil rights again soon enough. :lol:

 

And you can stop calling me officer, because I'm not one.

Im sure the police will violate your civil rights again soon enough. :lol:

 

And you can stop calling me officer, because I'm not one.

 

I was actually impressed with the police yesterday in Lexington. I saw no violation of any rights all night after the big win. It was quite impressive.

 

So then tell me how does a police officer give a ticket out for running a traffic light, or running a stop sign. It boils down to your word that you didn't to his word that you did! They don't all have video capability in their cars now do they?

 

A police officer can witness a person run a red light, stop sign, speeding, etc. How, other than through an admission of guilt or proof via phone records, can a police officer prove someone is texting? Just because the officer witnessed them looking at their phone that doesn't mean they're texting.

 

I was actually impressed with the police yesterday in Lexington. I saw no violation of any rights all night after the big win. It was quite impressive.

 

I'm sure they would have loved to have known that you approved of the way they were doing their jobs.

h20, even with the phone records I am not sure we can pinpoint the exact second(s) in time to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.

h20, and even with the phone records I am not sure we can pinpoint the exact second(s) in time to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

Probably right. And is it really worth the time to go after the phone records in the first place?

I'm sure they would have loved to have known that you approved of the way they were doing their jobs.

 

As they should. I'm chipping in on their salary.

Probably right. And is it really worth the time to go after the phone records in the first place?

 

On top of phone records you are going to need a search warrant for the phone, you will need to seize the phone for both its physical and electronic evidence in the case and you will need to subpoena the phone records. In other words, the person is going to lose their cell phone for at least a month, probably more because of having to subpoena the records, you will need a search warrant, and the case will have to be tried. I am guessing at least 5K if not 10K in resources will be expended in an average texting prosecution and my guess is the case will still be very difficult to win. Not to mention the time it is going to take the individual officer off the road (the search warrant) and the resources expended by the county attorney (search warrant and ongoing prosecution) of the case.

 

This law is a complete nightmare to enforce...

On top of phone records you are going to need a search warrant for the phone, you will need to seize the phone for both its physical and electronic evidence in the case and you will need to subpoena the phone records. In other words, the person is going to lose their cell phone for at least a month, probably more because of having to subpoena the records, you will need a search warrant, and the case will have to be tried. I am guessing at least 5K if not 10K in resources will be expended in an average texting prosecution and my guess is the case will still be very difficult to win. Not to mention the time it is going to take the individual officer off the road (the search warrant) and the resources expended by the county attorney (search warrant and ongoing prosecution) of the case.

 

This law is a complete nightmare to enforce...

 

Exactly. Totally illogical to enforce. You'd have to be very helpful to the police, in the form of handing over your phone, to ever be given a ticket for this. It would take ignorance of your own, personal rights, IMO.

h20, even with the phone records I am not sure we can pinpoint the exact second(s) in time to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

If you want to get phone records from the cell phone company per court order. It would just be a huge waste of everyone's money and time.

 

 

Edit... Didn't get far enough down to see your last post.

I always wondered if simply entering a phone number and pressing SEND is equivalent to texting.