You can think what you want, but why would I be so adamant about the improper use of power and authority by the Lexington police if I truly didn't know they were violating mine and other UK student's rights? Walking in a front door without being let in because of a call about loud music or something of that nature is a clear violation of rights, and that's how myself and others have gotten into trouble. I don't need a law degree to understand that. And no, not only do I not have any open cases, you wouldn't find a blemish on my record. Not even a speeding ticket. Keep trying, though.

 

Who said I got in trouble when the cops walk in? You just assumed that.

 

 

You said it yourself genius :lol: Did the crooked cops steal your short term memory while they violated your civil rights? :sssh:

So that makes it ok?

 

That's fair.

 

Doesn't make it ok, but that's life. Some unfairly scrutinize cops. But that's ok...

I have personally been told that I, nor my guests, were allowed to drink an alcoholic beverage on my front porch although I was over 21. At that time, there were four (4) people on the front porch. Our ages were 21, 30, 32 and 32.

 

In this instance, you aren't. Most cops don't enforce it though. Stupid law.

So that makes it ok?

 

That's fair.

 

Is that what I said?

 

Also, I learned at a very young age that life isn't fair. :lol:

 

I was sitting on my front porch & watched the officers go from house to house & tell people to bring their garbage cans in. They woke my neighbor up, waited for him to put on a shirt & shoes, then made him get the garbage can in. He went to the next house (across the street), knocked on the door, waited for an answer, then just decided to walk into the house (door was unlocked). I observed him walk through the dining / living rooms and look in at least one bedroom. When he was satisfied that nobody was home, he walked out & got the garbage can himself.

 

I can assure you that the examples I listed are 100% accurate. I have written letters to the mayor and have personally called to file a complaint once or twice but did not see any results. I was not expecting any immediate changes, but I never even got a response. I have also had extensive conversations with officers after breaking up a few parties.

 

After my 2nd example, I exchanged PM's with theguru about what course of action I could / should take. A few of us called & filed complaints with the PD but I'm sure nothing came of it.

 

I must say that is odd. Bringing in your trash can doesn't seem like a police issue.

You said it yourself genius :lol: Did the crooked cops steal your short term memory while they violated your civil rights? :sssh:

 

Oh so that means I have something on my record? Trouble could mean we had to turn our music down. Or people got kicked out of our house. Doesn't mean I got arrested or written a citation.

^Just keep changing your story to fit your arguement. :lol: Makes all your "stories" very credible

In this instance, you aren't. Most cops don't enforce it though. Stupid law.

 

What law prohibits me from having a beer while sitting on my front porch?

In this instance, you aren't. Most cops don't enforce it though. Stupid law.

 

What law are you referring to?

KRS 222.202

KRS 222.202

 

Here is KRS 222.202:

 

222.202 Offenses of alcohol intoxication or drinking alcoholic beverages in a public place.

(1) A person is guilty of alcohol intoxication when he appears in a public place manifestly under the influence of alcohol to the degree that he may endanger himself or other persons or property, or unreasonably annoy persons in his vicinity.

(2) A person is guilty of drinking alcoholic beverages in a public place when he drinks an alcoholic beverage in a public place, or in or upon any passenger coach, or other vehicle commonly used for the transportation of passengers, or in or about any depot, platform, or waiting room.

 

Since the front porch is part of a private residence how is it considered a public place? What if it is screened in, is it public then?

I know what it is, I don't need to read it ...Regardless if it's your porch or not, if the public can see you, it's a public place. Swap out alcohol for being nude. Sit naked on your front porch and see if you don't get a visit from the Po Po :lol:

 

Like I said, I've never seen it enforced, and it's a silly law, but...

 

As for the screened in porch...that's a good question for your county attorney. They're typically the ones who will tell you what kinda of charges can stick and which will get dropped...

Keep in mind, the cops burden of proof isn't "beyond a reasonable doubt", it's "probable cause".

 

A charge may get dropped or amended, but that doesn't mean it was a bad arrest or a bad charge.

I know what it is, I don't need to read it ...Regardless if it's your porch or not, if the public can see you, it's a public place. Swap out alcohol for being nude. Sit naked on your front porch and see if you don't get a visit from the Po Po :lol:

 

Like I said, I've never seen it enforced, and it's a silly law, but...

 

As for the screened in porch...that's a good question for your county attorney. They're typically the ones who will tell you what kinda of charges can stick and which will get dropped...

 

Got any case law to support your belief as to how "public" is interpreted?

 

By your definition I could be arrested for drinking a beer at a cookout in my backyard.

 

Call my cynical.

Generally speaking I disagree with Rocket's interpretation of the public intoxication law as it relates to going onto private property to make an arrest. I do agree that Indecent Exposure (being nude) is a different circumstance.