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How big is he? I think last year he was listed at around 6'2 and 310.

What position is he playing at?

Sounds like a great idea to me Woody. Maybe this would also help in the motivaton of the offseason workouts.

I believe that this is the key for this upcoming football season's success. Ashland needs some outstanding leadership from this class of seniors in order to be successful

And............ How did they look?

Was there any live team scrimmage?

Was this one of the transfers?

A great sport, good eats and the company of your friends. Is it football season yet?

I agree, Ashland lost a lot of great talent to be tabbed as the favorite. I look of JC to be the frontrunner.

Could that 20 rep squat mean total number of reps in all sets?

I agree Graybeard, it is great that these kids get the recognition from their offseason achievements. Besides it seems that when these numbers were posted alot of people on BGP didn't believe them anyway. So mabybe we can use that to our advantage.

Sounds interesting. Can't wait to see.

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Leatherneck, I do understand what you are trying to say. If this class were substituted for the math or science class , I probably would not be for it either. However , the school system does require a p.e. class and this advanced conditioning class is not in addition to another p.e. class but rather takes its place. I do know that our country's math and science scores are lower than need be, but to solve that problem we need to work it out with our math and science teachers, and our parents. I want my children to be well rounded mentally as well as physically. I try to stress that the importance of academics will affect 99% of the kids in high school much more than athletics so I push them to be honor students and try to help them when and if needed. I'm in favor of the advanced academics classes and if a student can excell physically then so much the better. So if our students are required to take a p.e. class then why not push them in this subject as well. I think they will be a much better person for it.

Although I believe it will take a little more than just two talented players. Add in a little,....... no, alot of luck and alot of hard work to get to the carpet.

Hence the name , 'advanced conditioning'.

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Let us have some dancing in the streets!! :banana: :dancingpa :dancingpa

Graybeard, You are too wise for me. I was only thinking one dimensional whereas you always have all areas covered.

Thats' great to hear I.C. , I hope that they are able to contribute to this coming years team. :thumb:

With wisdom and life's experiences to back them up. Very good, Greybeard. :thumb:

If this is true ( transfers) and they are football players then all I can say is..... cha-ching !!!

I'm a little confused with your stance on this issue. I do not deny that the football players in these classes benefit from this, but not all football players are in these classes. There are players of other sports. I first thought you felt that this class was interfering with academics class but they are not. I also agree that cardio is just as important as strength conditioning. But I do find it dificult to believe how some of the other subjects ( tumbling, bowling, golf or numerous other subjects coveredin p.e. class ) can be any more beneficial than weight lifting. Granted there may be some cardio benefits from dodgeball, but they don't play dodgeball the entire year. Some of these other subjects are covered, depending on the teachers preferences. The one benefit to students of this advanced class I see is that the players that do get to have do not have to stay after school to lift weights with all of the other players that don't have this class. As far as the question of how the classes are graded, I cannot tell you how. But the question I have is how are all of these other p.e. classes graded as well. My guess would be effort and ability.

I agree that the math, science,et. all courses are very important, but I also agree that physical education plays an important role in the development of our youth. You mean to tell me that it's ok for these kids to have dodgeball, softball or tumbling in class which I believe that physical education is a required course in high school, but they shouldn't substitute a more advanced class in its place. We allow the more advanced classes to be substituted for the math, sciences and all the others so why not advanced conditioning for those that could excell at that. To think that these advanced conditioning classes are taking the place of some of the other classes is wrong, at least at Ashland anyway. And if I'm not mistaken , Ashland had 40 plus players in football that made the honor roll, so it appears this class is not taking away from the others.

I agree Coach J, and know that the numbers on these Ashland players are true and good, but with the reactions of some I now realize that these players are truly utilizing there offseason talents in a good way.