I believe doctrine is important, but Jesus said that the primary attribute by which the world would identify Christians is that of love.

Big key here, define love?

Big key here, define love?

 

Treat people how Jesus would

Treat people how Jesus would

He treated them with love but also turned over tables in anger when they were sinning, he called his disciples idiots for not understanding what he was saying, he turned off thousands from following Him after listing the requirements of following Him.

 

Are we talking this New Age Jesus that people pick out the stories of Jesus that they like or ALL of the stories about Jesus from the Bible?

 

Yes, he told the first with no sin cast the first stone BUT HE ALSO told the girl to ho sin no more.

 

So, there MUST be a balance between the two.

Treat people how Jesus would

He treated them with love but also turned over tables in anger when they were sinning, he called his disciples idiots for not understanding what he was saying, he turned off thousands from following Him after listing the requirements of following Him.

 

Are we talking this New Age Jesus that people pick out the stories of Jesus that they like or ALL of the stories about Jesus from the Bible?

 

Yes, he told the first with no sin cast the first stone BUT HE ALSO told the girl to go sin no more.

 

So, there MUST be a balance between the two.

He treated them with love but also turned over tables in anger when they were sinning, he called his disciples idiots for not understanding what he was saying, he turned off thousands from following Him after listing the requirements of following Him.

 

Are we talking this New Age Jesus that people pick out the stories of Jesus that they like or ALL of the stories about Jesus from the Bible?

 

Yes, he told the first with no sin cast the first stone BUT HE ALSO told the girl to ho sin no more.

 

So, there MUST be a balance between the two.

 

People have a misconception of what love sometimes looks like. You pointed some things out--specifically with the woman caught in adultery--where Jesus clearly defined that her lifestyle was a sinful one & that she should leave it ASAP. His love is also evident in forgiving the repeated mishaps of guys like Peter. Peter was genuine in his commitment, but he faltered at times & Jesus understood that.

 

Jesus always got it right. He asked us to love others the way he did. So we need to simply read how he treated others & then emulate that. He was able to find that needed balance you mentioned. Too often, we fail to accomplish that, generally leaning too much one way or another.

He treated them with love but also turned over tables in anger when they were sinning, he called his disciples idiots for not understanding what he was saying, he turned off thousands from following Him after listing the requirements of following Him.

 

Are we talking this New Age Jesus that people pick out the stories of Jesus that they like or ALL of the stories about Jesus from the Bible?

 

Yes, he told the first with no sin cast the first stone BUT HE ALSO told the girl to go sin no more.

 

So, there MUST be a balance between the two.

 

People have a misconception of what love sometimes looks like. You pointed some things out--specifically with the woman caught in adultery--where Jesus clearly defined that her lifestyle was a sinful one & that she should leave it ASAP. His love is also evident in forgiving the repeated mishaps of guys like Peter. Peter was genuine in his commitment, but he faltered at times & Jesus understood that.

 

Jesus always got it right. He asked us to love others the way he did. So we need to simply read how he treated others & then emulate that. He was able to find that needed balance you mentioned. Too often, we fail to accomplish that, generally leaning too much one way or another.

 

Since none of us are Jesus how are you sure you are turning over tables over the right thing?

People have a misconception of what love sometimes looks like. You pointed some things out--specifically with the woman caught in adultery--where Jesus clearly defined that her lifestyle was a sinful one & that she should leave it ASAP. His love is also evident in forgiving the repeated mishaps of guys like Peter. Peter was genuine in his commitment, but he faltered at times & Jesus understood that.

 

Jesus always got it right. He asked us to love others the way he did. So we need to simply read how he treated others & then emulate that. He was able to find that needed balance you mentioned. Too often, we fail to accomplish that, generally leaning too much one way or another.

Well said and i concur!

Since none of us are Jesus how are you sure you are turning over tables over the right thing?

 

My general point is that when there is sin, it has to be identified as such, even if it comes across as intolerant & narrow-minded. I don't think that means we throw a flag every time we see someone doing something wrong. But if someone in my life is self-destructing because of some debilitating sin, the most unloving thing for me to do is sit back in silence & watch.

Since none of us are Jesus how are you sure you are turning over tables over the right thing?

 

Quit stealing tough questions away from me!!!! :madman:

My general point is that when there is sin, it has to be identified as such, even if it comes across as intolerant & narrow-minded. I don't think that means we throw a flag every time we see someone doing something wrong. But if someone in my life is self-destructing because of some debilitating sin, the most unloving thing for me to do is sit back in silence & watch.

 

So your not a "let he has not sinned cast the first stone" kind of guy?

So your not a "let he has not sinned cast the first stone" kind of guy?

 

How is that casting a stone?

Since none of us are Jesus how are you sure you are turning over tables over the right thing?

Two different but important answer to your question

 

1) General answer. When many say tp be like Jesus, they mean the Jesus they like. The one who loved tax collectors, prostitutes and the like.

 

But they forget that it was Jesus who gave a sermon on what it takes to follow Him and THOUSANDS of His disciples chose to not follow Him any longer because they said it was too hard.

 

He acted in anger to people and called many out on their behavior and STILL He loved them. Both is posdoble.

 

That is one of messages we learn from His message.

 

2) Contrary to the media perceptions and the commomly held belief, Christians don't believe they perfect people.

 

We KNOW we are imperfect people who will mess up. We will overturn the wromg tables. We will sin on a daily basis.

 

AND thst is the EXACT REASON why we need Christ. We will NEVER be good enough.

 

We can never do enough nor be nice enough. We will always fail if we rely on ourselves.

 

But that knowledge of imperfection cannot paralyze us to inaction.

 

We must act but learn the lessons God will teach us from our actions

So your not a "let he has not sinned cast the first stone" kind of guy?

Not to speak for him but i think he is.

 

None of us would look to stone and KILL someone for their sin.

 

BUT we would be willing to be like Jesus, like everyone including ourselves, amd point out sin (including the sin in our own lives) and tell them go sin no more. That is what Jesus did.

My general point is that when there is sin, it has to be identified as such, even if it comes across as intolerant & narrow-minded. I don't think that means we throw a flag every time we see someone doing something wrong. But if someone in my life is self-destructing because of some debilitating sin, the most unloving thing for me to do is sit back in silence & watch.

 

Good point. I was just curious how people make the distinction.

My general point is that when there is sin, it has to be identified as such, even if it comes across as intolerant & narrow-minded. I don't think that means we throw a flag every time we see someone doing something wrong. But if someone in my life is self-destructing because of some debilitating sin, the most unloving thing for me to do is sit back in silence & watch.

Well said and again I concur!