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Colerain (OH) Hit With Violations

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Manual (Jeff Co.) is a public school and Jeff Co. kids can pretty much go where they want.

 

I taught elementary in JCPS. It was my understanding that kids were districted based on addresses. I could be wrong, so no need for cynical, sarcastic replies. For instance several of my students went to the middle next door and then Southern high school.

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A really good DL was the player, correct?

 

He was a ninth semester DL. How good he was, I really don't remember. He played, but wasn't a DI recruit or anything.

I don't think their ability to instruct kids is somehow related to them committing an infraction of high school athletic rules. I don't think we really now what transpired; leave it at that. About hiring them, they probably are very good coaches who got overzealous in getting a kid into their program. Heck UK hired someone who had infractions at two other schools.

 

See, and I think the two are totally related. Obviously a stupid idea, I guess orchastrated by these two, leads me to believe they aren't smart enough to grasp the sublties of teaching the finer points.

 

As far knowing what transpired, maybe, maybe not. Maybe someone should call the FBI if we think it's a conspiracy. I'm acting on the information I've been given.

 

What you call overzealous, I call cheating. Apprantely, so does the OHSAA. High school coaches shouldn't get, "overzealous," about recruiting kids into their program, they should worry about coaching up the ones who are already there.

 

Apprantely you see things differently, as you compare, UK and Colerain's coaches??? One group is coaching at public high school, with enrollment boundaries. Part of the other's job is to recruit the best kids. Apples to apples here? Am I missing something.

See, and I think the two are totally related. Obviously a stupid idea, I guess orchastrated by these two, leads me to believe they aren't smart enough to grasp the sublties of teaching the finer points.

 

As far knowing what transpired, maybe, maybe not. Maybe someone should call the FBI if we think it's a conspiracy. I'm acting on the information I've been given.

 

What you call overzealous, I call cheating. Apprantely, so does the OHSAA. High school coaches shouldn't get, "overzealous," about recruiting kids into their program, they should worry about coaching up the ones who are already there.

 

Apprantely you see things differently, as you compare, UK and Colerain's coaches??? One group is coaching at public high school, with enrollment boundaries. Part of the other's job is to recruit the best kids. Apples to apples here? Am I missing something.

 

I was acting and speaking on the information given to me as well. Obviously we see things differently.

Aptr is 100% correct that it is legal to live in OH and play in KY.

 

A few years back I think there was a proposal that would prevent kids living out of state from playing football in Ky. Fortunately IMO it wasn't adopted. No offense to the person proposing the idea, but I thought it was pretty weak.

 

It would have been fine to attend school in Ky; compete for academic scholarships; compete for Valedectorian honors; play in the band; participate on the debate team; etc., etc., etc., but not be able to participate in high school sports. I considered the proposal a litmus test of whether those supporting the proposal were more interested in wins and losses than installing the values gained from participating in high school athletics.

 

I've never understood the line of thinking that kids located just across a state line are somehow genetically superior than those living within the state boundary.

A few years back I think there was a proposal that would prevent kids living out of state from playing football in Ky. Fortunately IMO it wasn't adopted. No offense to the person proposing the idea, but I thought it was pretty weak.

 

It would have been fine to attend school in Ky; compete for academic scholarships; compete for Valedectorian honors; play in the band; participate on the debate team; etc., etc., etc., but not be able to participate in high school sports. I considered the proposal a litmus test of whether those supporting the proposal were more interested in wins and losses than installing the values gained from participating in high school athletics.

 

I've never understood the line of thinking that kids located just across a state line are somehow genetically superior than those living within the state boundary.

 

That's how it is in OH!

This is how it used to be when I was in high school in the 90's, and Im sure it still is the same today. You can live in KY and go to school in OH, but you were not able to play sports. The exact opposite is true when students live in OH and go to school in KY. They are able to play right away as long as they pay tuition. Im not sure why it is opposite. Can anyone shed light on this?

Because they are two different states. I know when Moeller was in its hey day for football they were getting numerous talented players from Ky. St. X. as well. I'm sure it was not limted to football either. But I know personally guys I grew up with who went to St. X. just for school and lived in Ky.

I taught elementary in JCPS. It was my understanding that kids were districted based on addresses. I could be wrong, so no need for cynical, sarcastic replies. For instance several of my students went to the middle next door and then Southern high school.

 

 

Kids are given a "resides" school, based upon address. But, they are free to apply to attend any school they wish, and based on the complicated criteria that includes the socio-economic diversity of the school they wish to attend, the availability of a spot open and/or the magnet program they wish to enter, they can be accepted and attend. So, kids from Western and Shawnee's "resides" area often wind up at Eastern and Ballard. It all starts in kindergarten. Parents put their kids into elementary schools that "feed" into certain middle schools, which in turn "feed" into certain high schools. Especially those parents who want their kids at either Male or Manual. Manual, especially.

Because they are two different states. I know when Moeller was in its hey day for football they were getting numerous talented players from Ky. St. X. as well. I'm sure it was not limted to football either. But I know personally guys I grew up with who went to St. X. just for school and lived in Ky.

 

 

That was in the late 70's and early 80's. My dad would take me every year acroos the river to watch Moeller/Princeton at Nippert Field in front of about 30,000. Both teams were always nationally ranked. Moeller was a pipeline to Notre Dame.

 

Moeller had the coolest jerseys with stars up the pant leg and across the front.

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Because they are two different states. I know when Moeller was in its hey day for football they were getting numerous talented players from Ky. St. X. as well. I'm sure it was not limted to football either. But I know personally guys I grew up with who went to St. X. just for school and lived in Ky.

 

Moeller/KY probably contributed greatly to the Ohio rule.

Moeller/KY probably contributed greatly to the Ohio rule.

 

Actually it was Cincinnati St.Xavier/Ky that probably brought it to a head. I'm sure Moeller/KY contributed.

There's someone who's comments are curiously absent from this conversation... :sssh:

Oh, I'm around. Just enjoy reading the misinformation and jumping to conclusions going on.

 

This was nothing more than a slap on the wrist for an incredibly minor infraction. Honestly, hardly worth mentioning when you know all the facts.

 

Move along, nothing to see here.

 

-CardinalsFan

Riiiiiiiight. We've heard that one before.

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