While attending a middle school game last night, I witnessed the following and was wondering what the actual call might be. Opponent scores a basket and home team player steps over endline to take ball out of bounds. He realizes after grabbing the ball with both feet firmly out of bounds that he is not supposed to take it out and flips the ball to a teammate on the other side of the basket who has firmly established himself out of bounds as well. The opponent player steps over the endline to deflect the ball away as it is being passed from offensive player 1 to offensive player 2. What is the call, is it a warning or a technical foul?

IMO...if the defender steps across the inbound line and deflects the ball after it has left the passers hands, it should be a warning for the first and a technical for the second. However, if the defender hits the ball while it is still in the hands of the inbound passer, it should be a technical.

Edited February 10, 201214 yr by HeadCheese

Technical Foul.

As long as no player on the throw-in team had the ball completely OOB ie not touching inbounds then the defender is whacked with a T. If instead of hitting the ball he hits the player it's an intentional foul. It doesn't matter if it's being passed or not.

 

No warning when there is contact.

As long as no player on the throw-in team had the ball completely OOB ie not touching inbounds then the defender is whacked with a T. If instead of hitting the ball he hits the player it's an intentional foul. It doesn't matter if it's being passed or not.

 

No warning when there is contact.

 

That's what I was thinking. If the defensive player crosses the line at any time and touches the ball it is a technical foul. Was not aware that if he hits a player though it is an intentional foul. Learned something new. Thanks Clyde for the clarification.

That's what I was thinking. If the defensive player crosses the line at any time and touches the ball it is a technical foul. Was not aware that if he hits a player though it is an intentional foul. Learned something new. Thanks Clyde for the clarification.

 

The distinction between the two incidents matters because if it's an intentional the player that got hit has to shoot the FTs. If it's a T any player can shoot the FTs. Plus it determines where the ball is put back into play.

How would the defender know that he wasn't passing the ball inbounce?

How would the defender know that he wasn't passing the ball inbounce?

 

Rule says a defender cannot hit the ball until it crosses the endline.

The key is the plane of the endline and the crossing by the defender. It would appear that the offensive had "secured" the ball. Did the trail start the count ?

I should have clarified a little more. The defender did not only reach over the endline, but actually stepped over the endline into the out of bounds area to deflect the ball away. The call made by the official was simply home teams ball to be put back in play which I knew was wrong, but was not sure if it was a warning or "T".

I should have clarified a little more. The defender did not only reach over the endline, but actually stepped over the endline into the out of bounds area to deflect the ball away. The call made by the official was simply home teams ball to be put back in play which I knew was wrong, but was not sure if it was a warning or "T".

 

If he had not deflected the ball nor touched a player then you issue a delay warning. Next delay would be a T. The deflection in your scenario makes it a T.

I should have clarified a little more. The defender did not only reach over the endline, but actually stepped over the endline into the out of bounds area to deflect the ball away. The call made by the official was simply home teams ball to be put back in play which I knew was wrong, but was not sure if it was a warning or "T".

 

Technical foul. No warning is given.

I should have clarified a little more. The defender did not only reach over the endline, but actually stepped over the endline into the out of bounds area to deflect the ball away. The call made by the official was simply home teams ball to be put back in play which I knew was wrong, but was not sure if it was a warning or "T".

 

If they scenario played out as you described, the "wrong" kid took the ball out, realized this and was simply trying to give the ball to the one who was suppose to inbound I can see how an official would do as this one did considering it is middle school. However, if it was a designed play after a made basket to pass the ball out of bounds, then as stated it would be a technical.

If they scenario played out as you described, the "wrong" kid took the ball out, realized this and was simply trying to give the ball to the one who was suppose to inbound I can see how an official would do as this one did considering it is middle school. However, if it was a designed play after a made basket to pass the ball out of bounds, then as stated it would be a technical.

 

I think it was probably designed as a press play. Otherwise, why would two players be standing out of bounds? Of course it is middle school, so anything is possible.

I think it was probably designed as a press play. Otherwise, why would two players be standing out of bounds? Of course it is middle school, so anything is possible.

 

I think you answered your "why" question with your last sentence.