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Can Ron Paul win the GOP nomination for 2012 POTUS?

Can Ron Paul win the GOP nomination for 2012 POTUS? 19 members have voted

  1. 1. Can Ron Paul win the GOP nomination for 2012 POTUS?

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I actually find it pretty insulting that you are making assumptions that evangelicals and southern baptists will not vote for him just because he is a mormon. There is absolutely no evidence to back that up. Its not a good argument. You can make excuses as to why which state voted the way it did but when it comes down to it, Romney got votes in the heavy right-wing part of the country.

 

Until like 2 years ago it was listed as a cult on the Southern Baptist website, I'm looking right now to see it was moved to something called new false religions or something. I'm an evangelical/southern baptist my whole life, I know how we think. I also know what I've heard for years about the mormon church from more southern baptist than I can even possibly begin to name here. Every preacher in town was up in arms when an LDS church opened in our community when I was about 15, I would say the uproar I saw is nothing unusual in a lot of the country. You can say I have no evidence, but I've seen it with my own eyes. I'll also post some stuff later when I have time to look for it. Most if not all southern baptist leaders condemn the mormon church and it's teachings

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What exactly are we going off of here? Would you not consider them to be strong candidates when the top two prospects are beating Obama in numerous polls and key swing states?

 

Obama is just stock piling millions waiting for his campaign to get started. That is where the Republicans will have issues.

Until like 2 years ago it was listed as a cult on the Southern Baptist website, I'm looking right now to see it was moved to something called new false religions or something. Every preacher in town was up in arms when an LDS church opened in our community when I was about 15, I would say the uproar I saw is nothing unusual in a lot of the country. Most if not all southern baptist leaders condemn the mormon church and it's teachings

 

That is truly unfortunate. Would you vote for a mormon?

Obama is just stock piling millions waiting for his campaign to get started. That is where the Republicans will have issues.

 

He obviously isn't doing his job, you hit the nail on the head.

Still would take a lot, his numbers are low in the South. Gingrich can really rack up the delegates in several of the first primaries. Also with Paul's recent surge in Iowa you have to wonder how loyal his new found supporters are. Key to Iowa is loyal supporters that won't waiver, caucuses can lead to weird results. I still think South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida give Gingrich such an edge early he's going to be almost impossible to knock off especially if he comes in first or second in Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

I think you're completely overlooking Paul, I think he will surprise you in the Southern states.

As I consider Gingrich, I keep thinking ... if this guy with this background were a Democrat, Rush Limbaugh would be licking his chops. One other thought for consideration - will women vote for him? A woman I was speaking with recently made this point to me saying there is no way a woman will vote for him.

I think you're completely overlooking Paul, I think he will surprise you in the Southern states.

 

Maybe, but I just don't see it Paul has seemed to run pretty consistant the last two elections, I just don't see him making a big push down south now.

That is truly unfortunate. Would you vote for a mormon?

 

Maybe, I wouldn't disqualify someone for being Mormon, but I know many that would and will. A lot more goes in to my thought process, I would most likely not vote for Romney, but him being mormon is very far down on the things with him I disagree with.

If Gingrich wins Iowa this thing is over.

 

Recent history does not support the "over" comment.

 

In the last 5 R Iowa caucuses where there wasn't an incumbent only 2 Iowa winners have gone on to win the nomination.

There are now stories coming out about Ron Paul's newsletters he used to send out and their comments regarding blacks.

 

I found this story that talks about some of the comments:

 

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/dont-believe-ron-paul-hype

 

"[Although] we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."

 

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the 'criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

 

"lack males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary, and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."

 

There was another comment I can't find that said something like the only time blacks in Los Angeles are orderly is when they are waiting in line for their welfare check.

 

Uh, not good.

Recent history does not support the "over" comment.

 

In the last 5 R Iowa caucuses where there wasn't an incumbent only 2 Iowa winners have gone on to win the nomination.

 

I'm looking at how he is polling in the states after Iowa. An Iowa win will set him up with so much media coverage and support that he will be almost impossible to take down. After N.H. it's Florida, South Carolina, and Georgia, 3 states Gingirch is currently polling at over 40% in.

Those Accusations were brought out during the last election. He had no idea what they were talking about. They dont know who published those newsletters.

Those Accusations were brought out during the last election. He had no idea what they were talking about. They dont know who published those newsletters.

 

Come on. They were HIS newsletters going out and yet he didn't know? You really buy that?

Come on. They were HIS newsletters going out and yet he didn't know? You really buy that?

 

I may be wrong, but I believe the L.A.-related comments had to do with the rioting in the '90s, and that it would end on either the 1st or the 15th (when welfare checks arrive).

I may be wrong, but I believe the L.A.-related comments had to do with the rioting in the '90s, and that it would end on either the 1st or the 15th (when welfare checks arrive).

 

Correct.

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