December 1, 201114 yr Link Really? Calipari's team plays in the sinfully awful SEC, and he is worried about the schedule being too tough? If anything, UK should do what UofL used to do in the Metro and C-USA days and play whoever, whenever, wherever.
December 1, 201114 yr Aren't you tired of trying to UK/SEC bash? 1 - Kentucky 10 - Florida 12 - Alabama 13 - Missouri (since we're talking about the future after all...) 20 - Vanderbilt 21 - Miss St 25 - Texas A&M
December 1, 201114 yr I know they're looking into letting the contract expire after this season with UNC so they can redo it so they aren't playing UofL and UNC both at home in the same seasons as it's currently set up.
December 1, 201114 yr Author Aren't you tired of trying to UK/SEC bash? 1 - Kentucky 10 - Florida 12 - Alabama 13 - Missouri (since we're talking about the future after all...) 20 - Vanderbilt 21 - Miss St 25 - Texas A&M Wild aberration. Historically, the SEC has UK and whomever is "up" that year, usually a rotating cast between Miss. St., Vandy, LSU, Florida, Bama or Tennessee. Never all at the same time. If the NCAA basketball tourney was done the BCS way, the entire country would be complaining that the SEC should lose its automatic bid.
December 1, 201114 yr Wild aberration. Historically, the SEC has UK and whomever is "up" that year, usually a rotating cast between Miss. St., Vandy, LSU, Florida, Bama or Tennessee. Never all at the same time. If the NCAA basketball tourney was done the BCS way, the entire country would be complaining that the SEC should lose its automatic bid. That's not at all true and you know it Jim. The SEC, while as a whole has recently been pretty mediocre, has routinely had UK and UF in the top 15-20 year in, year out. People complain about the Big East in football, because most years they struggle to field a top 25 team.
December 1, 201114 yr Author That's not at all true and you know it Jim. The SEC, while as a whole has recently been pretty mediocre, has routinely had UK and UF in the top 15-20 year in, year out. People complain about the Big East in football, because most years they struggle to field a top 25 team. Florida is just like the rest of the SEC and has cycles. Used to be Arkansas for a while, then it was Florida, then Tennessee, then Florida again. And UK's dip into mediocrity during the late-Tubby and BCG era only further reinforces this, as Florida was top dog and Tennessee was second fiddle for a couple years.
December 1, 201114 yr ^I have to give it to you Jim. No matter how outrageous or insane it may be, you never miss an opportunity to attempt to bash the SEC. Credibility be darned. :lol:
December 1, 201114 yr ^I have to give it to you Jim. No matter how outrageous or insane it may be, you never miss an opportunity to attempt to bash the SEC. Credibility be darned. :lol: :thumb:
December 1, 201114 yr Link Really? Calipari's team plays in the sinfully awful SEC, and he is worried about the schedule being too tough? If anything, UK should do what UofL used to do in the Metro and C-USA days and play whoever, whenever, wherever. It's not about the schedule being too tough. From my understanding its about the amount of money that the school is potentially mising out on. I could have sworn I read that somewhere. Wish I paid more attention to give more details.
December 1, 201114 yr Will the conference basketball season expand by 3 (?) games or does anyone know yet? I would assume it is at some point. Like in football, we are going to see a lot of this across all collegiate sports. That is, losing non-conference rivals.
December 1, 201114 yr FWIW, I went back and took a look at the teams that have made the Elite Eight over the past 10 NCAA basketball tournaments. Using the current conference affiliations for this season, the number of elite eight appearance for team in their respective conferences breaks down as follows: 1) Big 12 - 17 2) Big East - 16 3) SEC -10 4) ACC -9 5) Pac 10 -8 5) Big 10 -8 Seems like the SEC has respresented themselves fairly well.
December 1, 201114 yr FWIW, I went back and took a look at the teams that have made the Elite Eight over the past 10 NCAA basketball tournaments. Using the current conference affiliations for this season, the number of elite eight appearance for team in their respective conferences breaks down as follows: 1) Big 12 - 17 2) Big East - 16 3) SEC -10 4) ACC -9 5) Pac 10 -8 5) Big 10 -8 Seems like the SEC has respresented themselves fairly well. Especially since the Big East has a 33% head start. The Big 12 is the most impressive.
December 1, 201114 yr Fortunately, college hoops has a system in place that lets the teams decide things on the court, so automatic BCS bids are irrelevant. Kentucky's presence alone gives SEC basketball a program with an elite track record that has proved itself multiple times on the biggest stage. Second, the SEC typically has a couple of high quality teams. It doesn't matter a bit if that happens to be a revolving door. The conference still has them. Since 1990, the SEC has 14 Final Four appearances (5 different teams) and 5 national champions (3 different teams). The longest period they've gone without a Final Four appearance in that time was a drought between Florida's apperances in 2000 and 2006. The longest time without a championship was between UK's '98 title and Florida's '06 title. They also had a stretch from '94 through '98 of 7 Final Fours and 3 national champions. The point being, they're middle of the pack with regards to major conference performance, IMO. They've had some high moments and some droughts, but to suggest they don't measure up or belong doesn't hold up.
December 1, 201114 yr It would be interesting to see how a college hoops season would play out with a BCS system in place. How would the top teams respond knowing every game was of the utmost importance? That one slip up could cost you a chance at the title? Also, imagine the mess that would result since pretty much every team has multiple losses in college hoops. UK would certainly have an advantage over Big East teams by playing in a weaker conference. Theoretically, they shouldn't suffer as many losses, nor should there be as many potential losses. On the other hand, the SOS would be a huge benefit to the Big East schools. I'd be curious to see how many more losses a tough SOS could offset. Somebody should put together a system and figure that out as a what if scenario. Just to see who would be matched up in the championship game, then see how the tournament actually plays out. I think it is safe to say Duke and UConn would be a title short.
December 1, 201114 yr FWIW, I went back and took a look at the teams that have made the Elite Eight over the past 10 NCAA basketball tournaments. Using the current conference affiliations for this season, the number of elite eight appearance for team in their respective conferences breaks down as follows: 1) Big 12 - 17 2) Big East - 16 3) SEC -10 4) ACC -9 5) Pac 10 -8 5) Big 10 -8 Seems like the SEC has respresented themselves fairly well. Would be interesting to see how many different teams from each conference make that up.
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