If that's the bar we have to hurdle then no US citizen can ever raise their voice in dissent or protest.

 

I have felt the whole time that there are an awful lot of "99 percenters" who are wasting breath on the wrong issue. If you've got the money and personal resources to spend your days and nights with your camping gear occupying city streets to protest big business and the corporate world, you've got no right to really complain when you need only look to Central America, South America, Africa, and Asia to see real suffering.

I have felt the whole time that there are an awful lot of "99 percenters" who are wasting breath on the wrong issue. If you've got the money and personal resources to spend your days and nights with your camping gear occupying city streets to protest big business and the corporate world, you've got no right to really complain when you need only look to Central America, South America, Africa, and Asia to see real suffering.

 

That doesn't diminish the true issue/cause. I've seen reporters and college professors out protesting as well.

 

IMO we are getting too hung up on the face of the protesters vs the issue(yes that some can't fully comprehend or state) that Wall Street, while very important, has taken advantage of us as taxpayers and it has harmed us. That's what we should be discussing - not the fact that some of them are dirty or having sex or unemployed.

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I don't care if this is germaine to the true issue or not. It's downright funny & reminds us all that when arguing political topics, a little big-picture perspective never hurts. :thumb::thumb::thumb:

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I think if you put a picture of some billionaire's home in the 1% slot you would have a better depiction of this protest.

That doesn't diminish the true issue/cause. I've seen reporters and college professors out protesting as well.

 

IMO we are getting too hung up on the face of the protesters vs the issue(yes that some can't fully comprehend or state) that Wall Street, while very important, has taken advantage of us as taxpayers and it has harmed us. That's what we should be discussing - not the fact that some of them are dirty or having sex or unemployed.

The bolded is where I differ. Our government has taken advantage of us as taxpayers and has harmed us. The protesters need to be in Washington, being unemployed, dirty, and having sex, in view of the Capitol.

The bolded is where I differ. Our government has taken advantage of us as taxpayers and has harmed us. The protesters need to be in Washington, being unemployed, dirty, and having sex, in view of the Capitol.

 

We do disagree. I agree govt is complicit. Someone had to agree to the regulations WS is under. However, zero chance Wall St didn't willingly make decisions that would have an impact on the nation that a)they knew were bad and b)were simply because of commissions.

The Oakland folks that broke into buildings and caused damage plus blocked off the Oakland port should be arrested without question.

We do disagree. I agree govt is complicit. Someone had to agree to the regulations WS is under. However, zero chance Wall St didn't willingly make decisions that would have an impact on the nation that a)they knew were bad and b)were simply because of commissions.

 

So what are those corporate leaders going to do? Come down there and right all of them a check? What they are doing will never work. They are not going to the root of the cause.

We do disagree. I agree govt is complicit. Someone had to agree to the regulations WS is under. However, zero chance Wall St didn't willingly make decisions that would have an impact on the nation that a)they knew were bad and b)were simply because of commissions.

 

And they should have been allowed to fail. I understand the consequences of such an act, especially to me and my family, yet I still feel that way. Why?

 

Realize that I hope I'm wrong, my entire life depends on me being wrong, but I have a gut feeling that this depression is not over and when the real collapse happens, the results will be far worse than if we had just let the failures happen in the first place.

 

Now if you don't mind, I have to go bury some more Mason jars in the back yard.

And they should have been allowed to fail. I understand the consequences of such an act, especially to me and my family, yet I still feel that way. Why?

 

Realize that I hope I'm wrong, my entire life depends on me being wrong, but I have a gut feeling that this depression is not over and when the real collapse happens, the results will be far worse than if we had just let the failures happen in the first place.

 

Now if you don't mind, I have to go bury some more Mason jars in the back yard.

 

My comments have nothing to do with the "fail" debate.

My comments have nothing to do with the "fail" debate.

But that is still the crux of the whole thing. Greed is tempered by failure. If you are not allowed to fail, what is there to offset the greed?

The Oakland folks that broke into buildings and caused damage plus blocked off the Oakland port should be arrested without question.

Agree 100% onthe damage and violence! There were a very small number of people who did this, most if not all were just anarchist, Rome had a few hundred thousand marchers on the 15th of October, but it was a group of a couple of hundred anarchist that caused things to get out of hand. A lot of occupier went out with cleaning supplies to help clean off paint and spray paint as soon as they noticed it, as well as leave signs apologizing for the actions of a few. A small number of people, anarchists, think that causing trouble is the only way to get something going, which is actually does the opposite.

Things are in a panic around the former ACORN offices now that their involvement has been exposed.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/03/acorn-officials-scramble-firing-workers-and-shredding-documents-after-exposed/

Agree 100% onthe damage and violence! There were a very small number of people who did this, most if not all were just anarchist, Rome had a few hundred thousand marchers on the 15th of October, but it was a group of a couple of hundred anarchist that caused things to get out of hand. A lot of occupier went out with cleaning supplies to help clean off paint and spray paint as soon as they noticed it, as well as leave signs apologizing for the actions of a few. A small number of people, anarchists, think that causing trouble is the only way to get something going, which is actually does the opposite.

So your saying they were anarchist:idunno:

So your saying they were anarchist:idunno:

Yes! Google "Oakland Liberation Front", they are a self invented, pseudo-anarchist group styled after Black Bloc, that was never involved with anything of Occupy Oakland, they came into the park the night before and handed out their material http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/call-to-violence-e1320326431189.jpg

 

Most all people know that when violence, vandalism, rioting and street fighting happens the police will come down, and come down hard, and put a stop to anyting good that will/could come out of peaceful demonstrations! But these types of small groups don't care.