UKMustangFan Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Gov. Christie sure is making the rounds. Christie Keeps Up Appearances Anyone else think he's going to jump in before all is said and done? I'm sure hoping so.
Clyde Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 The question of the political year. He has been consistent in his answer. If he chooses to he immediately becomes the heavy favorite to win the R nomination.
Colonels_Wear_Blue Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 He'd have my vote hands down, no question about it. He's extremely straightforward and isn't one to be swayed...which is not something I feel has been a Republican strength over the last handful of elections. If he ran, I don't see anyone else even getting a sniff at the nomination. I agree that he looks like a guy who wants to run for president, but my question is, why is he continuing to say he's staying out? The only advantage I see is not having to make a clown of himself with the other Republican candidates in the early primaries and debates. Hindsight being 20/20, I really think it was the bickering in the primaries and the debate process that ended up determining our 44th president to be our first black president instead of our first female president.
Clyde Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Why sit out now? 1 . Doesn't think he can beat President Obama. 2. Wants his kids to be four years older before he runs. Any other choices?
Colonels_Wear_Blue Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Why sit out now? 1 . Doesn't think he can beat President Obama. 2. Wants his kids to be four years older before he runs. Any other choices? 1b. Thinks he can surely beat whichever candidate the Dems come up with after the next presidential term.
Clyde Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 If he is trying to "time" it the challenge he faces is if a R wins THIS election. That probably sets his timetable back to 2020.
UKMustangFan Posted September 26, 2011 Author Posted September 26, 2011 ^I can't think of anything else. I'm assuming his strategy is if he doesn't run now, Obama will be re-elected and he'll have a much better shot at beating another Dem than a sitting President. However, I think 4 years from now Rubio will be a very viable opponent for his own party's nomination.
woodsrider Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Why sit out now? 1 . Doesn't think he can beat President Obama. 2. Wants his kids to be four years older before he runs. Any other choices? 3. Doesn't what to be President That's about all I can come up with. If it's not your #2 or my 3 then now is the time. If he gets in I don't see him losing the R nomination and I have a hard time seeing Obama beating him.
Clyde Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 3. Doesn't what to be President That's about all I can come up with. If it's not your #2 or my 3 then now is the time. If he gets in I don't see him losing the R nomination and I have a hard time seeing Obama beating him. My guess is it's not #3.
Randy Parker Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 I said in a different thread that if Christie wants to run, now is the time. 1) A President who continues to experience approval ratings in the low-40's, and even lower as far as handling of the hot-button issue of the economy. 2) A terribly lackluster field of GOP candidates. Rick Perry gets worse & worse with each passing day & it's hard to imagine the TPers fully embracing Mitt Romney. 3) Many of the GOP money people are all but begging him to run, meaning he won't have trouble raising funds. 4) If Romney should somehow defeat Obama, he's looking at eight years out before running again. 5) If Romney or Perry should lose to Obama (the more likely scenario), the 2016 field will likely have a fellow rising star in Marco Rubio to contend with & maybe even someone like Jeb Bush who has instant name recognition, is well thought of, & will have no trouble raising money. Again, if he doesn't want it, I understand. And while some will accurately point out the difficulty of defeating an incumbent with deep pockets, I can't imagine a better scenario in which Christie could throw his hat into the ring. I'm not sure his star will ever shine any brighter than it is right now, or that those of his opponents will be any dimmer.
woodsrider Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 My guess is it's not #3.Oh, I totally agree but that was about all I could come up with as a possibility.
Clyde Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 I said in a different thread that if Christie wants to run, now is the time. 1) A President who continues to experience approval ratings in the low-40's, and even lower as far as handling of the hot-button issue of the economy. . Recent history would not show that a low approval rating at this point of a term leads to losing the next election. http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx Surprising.
75center Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 The great unknown in historical statistics is the unemployment rate. I believe FDR was the only president to win re-election with an unemployment rate above 7.4 or so. It's been estimated that the rate will be 8.2% in November of 2012.
Randy Parker Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 Recent history would not show that a low approval rating at this point of a term leads to losing the next election. http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx Surprising. I remember Clinton being in the mid-40's, but am surprised by Reagan. So if Obama wins, which I think he will, he does so in spite of a 41% September average. That number would be the lowest for any re-elected President (if I'm reading this right). Carter was at 32% & then Clinton & Reagan next at 46% & 47%. GHWB was heavily bolstered by Desert Storm. GWB, I notice, was at 51%, which is the exact amount he received in the 2004 popular vote.
Run To State Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 At first glance, I really liked the thought of Christie running, now, I'm not so sure. He has some explaining to do for me to get on board. Christie strongly supported the assault weapons ban enacted during the Clinton administration. He opposes attempts to permit conceal carry laws in New Jersey. He dishonestly referred to the semiautomatic firearms barred under the Clinton administration’s "crime bill" as "automatic assault weapons," intentionally misrepresenting hunting, plinking, defense, and target rifles as military machine guns. I have a problem with that.
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