Schools that play by the state Eligibility rule of pass 60% of your classes.

I assume that you are asking for schools that have NOT made a stricter requirement than the KHSAA minimum.

 

I know that Bellevue goes by the KHSAA minimum. LCA and Lloyd have higher standards. I am not sure what Lloyd's requirements are, but LCA requires a 2.0 GPA to participate in sports.

 

The question that this brings up is it fair that some schools have stricter standards? The students that the school rules ineligible would be eligible at a lot of other schools.

 

In my opinion, the KHSAA is doing these STUDENT-athletes no favor by making the standard so low. There is no reason that if a student does his homework and gets a 50% on his tests that he cannot get a C in most classes. I realize that there are teachers that treat high school like a college class and have very few assignments for a student to bring the grades up, but that is usually the exception.

 

If a student skates by with the minimum his freshman and sophomore year, he is going to have to work really hard to get his grades up enough to even be looked at by colleges. And I would venture to guess that poor grades the first two years of high school would translate to a lower ACT or SAT score.

 

Bottom line is that the VAST majority of these STUDENT-athletes are not going to be playing in the NFL, NBA, etc. So they need the education above all. I look at athletics as a way to get your college paid for and if by chance you have enough God-given talent and ability to make it to the pro level, you still have an education.

If you are failing one class at Lloyd you are ineligible for the following week.

Im pretty sure that at Newport you have to be passing 75% of your classes

Im pretty sure that at Newport you have to be passing 75% of your classes

 

Trinity uses the state system, but on a week to week basis.

yes... I believe Newports policy is "If the class ended today, would the student pass the class?" ... and if not ... No games until the grad is brought up to passing

IMO, the KHSAA minimum requirement is a JOKE.

 

I'd make it mandatory statewide a 2.0 gpa (a "C") must be maintained AND would add that NO core classes (required to graduate) may be failed.

 

I'd use the same standard and apply it to ALL extra-curriculars (cheerleading, band, etc.).

 

Why should a failing student be allowed to spend time on extras before spending it with his books ??

There is a lot to consider on this subject, but let me ask one question. What per cent of high school players across the state will receive college athletic scholarships? My answer to this would be very low percentage. Most kids learn a lot about life in general while playing high school sports and a lot of them would not make it through high school if they were not allowed to play. Why punish that few that fall into that group. Most kids that go onto college are the good students from families that push them and expect them to attend. We have a lot of student athletes that never will and never plan to attend college. There is such a thing as vocational studies for them. I just don't think by requiring the players to have a C average is going to make them a college bound student, because most of them will not get the C average to begin with and at the same time will never learn the real meaning of what it is like to be on a team and possibly be helped in other facets of life.

The Laurel County schools have a minimum 2.0 GPA for all sports. I agree that other extracurricular activities should fall under the same guideline, and they may do it, but I am not sure.

 

They tried to tighten it up even further about 2 years ago with an addendum that if a student was receiving an 'F' in ANY 1 class, they would be ineligible as well. It did not pass, but I am okay with the 2.0 minimum.

 

Originally posted by Oneijoe

Why should a failing student be allowed to spend time on extras before spending it with his books ??

 

:thumb: Couldn't agree more.

There is a lot to consider on this subject, but let me ask one question. What per cent of high school players across the state will receive college athletic scholarships? My answer to this would be very low percentage. Most kids learn a lot about life in general while playing high school sports and a lot of them would not make it through high school if they were not allowed to play. Why punish that few that fall into that group. Most kids that go onto college are the good students from families that push them and expect them to attend. We have a lot of student athletes that never will and never plan to attend college. There is such a thing as vocational studies for them. I just don't think by requiring the players to have a C average is going to make them a college bound student, because most of them will not get the C average to begin with and at the same time will never learn the real meaning of what it is like to be on a team and possibly be helped in other facets of life.

 

It's pretty straight-forward - the extras in high school shouldn't come until a reasonable passing standard in schoolwork is met. This has NOTHING to do with being "college bound" !!

 

I REALLY have a problem with your last sentence. You seem to think "real meaning of what it is like to be on a team" is as important as passing classes. The MOST important thing a young person this age needs to learn is personal responsibility.

 

Having to maintain a grade is the first REAL mandatory standard many of these student athletes have been faced with. The effort and discipline required to "make the grade" serves a borderline student far, FAR better than playing on any team ever could. And this is true in ALL ways...

 

 

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You should not be able to pass 3 of 5 courses and continue to play. That is kind of riduclous IMO. That said, it is important to keep this standard relatively low because there are REAL LIFE instances where fantastic athletes simply may not have the ability to make a 2.0, even if giving a admirable effort in class. Should we hold an athlete to a higher standard than any other student. If a NORMAL student makes all D+'s and C-'s I believe he would move on. Same should hold true for an athlete.

You should not be able to pass 3 of 5 courses and continue to play. That is kind of riduclous IMO. That said, it is important to keep this standard relatively low because there are REAL LIFE instances where fantastic athletes simply may not have the ability to make a 2.0, even if giving a admirable effort in class. Should we hold an athlete to a higher standard than any other student. If a NORMAL student makes all D+'s and C-'s I believe he would move on. Same should hold true for an athlete.

I agree. Why Punish the athlete? Most football players and other athletes will not move on to the next level. Go with the KHSAA rules.

I agree. Why Punish the athlete? Most football players and other athletes will not move on to the next level. Go with the KHSAA rules.

 

Let's remember, the kids we're talking about are students first and athletes second.

 

If "playing ball" is the only thing a given student will put effort into at school, this student does NOT need to be around his teammates (or other classmates, for that matter). A "C" average requires more effort from some than others, but is impossible only to those that shouldn't be there anyway (learning disabled, mentally handicapped, etc).

 

I'll repeat what I said earlier...the effort required to "get the grade" will serve a student FAR more than team participation. Since so few "move on to the next level", he MUST be prepared for life - NOW !!

 

Education is the main course. Athletics is a dessert. We all know a kid can't have cake until he's eaten dinner.

 

KHSAA rule is to pass 75% of your classes each week. If you are not doing that you must not play until you are passing 75%of your classes. To play as a freshman you must pass the 8 th grade. To play as a soph you must past 75% of your classes, etc. I agree. I know it is minimum, but look folks, we are talking about kids growing up and trying to be somebody. Why destroy that in an early age?

There is a lot to consider on this subject, but let me ask one question. What per cent of high school players across the state will receive college athletic scholarships? My answer to this would be very low percentage. Most kids learn a lot about life in general while playing high school sports and a lot of them would not make it through high school if they were not allowed to play. Why punish that few that fall into that group. Most kids that go onto college are the good students from families that push them and expect them to attend. We have a lot of student athletes that never will and never plan to attend college. There is such a thing as vocational studies for them. I just don't think by requiring the players to have a C average is going to make them a college bound student, because most of them will not get the C average to begin with and at the same time will never learn the real meaning of what it is like to be on a team and possibly be helped in other facets of life.

 

I kinda understand what you are saying. It is important to maintain a good gpa and pass your classes, but there are certain circumstances were the only reason a player may graduate from high school is b/c of sports. There are some athletes as well as other students who flat out can not maintain a C average. These students would drop out of school w/out sports and usually do drop out of school and end up on the streets...b/c they are not qualified to play HS sports.