Are there any schools that still have a level of conduct needed to be eligible? When I played in high school, if you had 25% of your conduct grade as unsatisfactory, you were ineligible for that weeks activities.

There are other factors to be considered. If one kid has a B in remedial math and the other has a D in calculus, should the D be suspended? I think that one consequence of overly inflexible rules is that the kids will "dumb down" their schedule. I think that performance in the classroom is a place where the coach needs to work with the teachers to do what is best for the kid. For one kid a C in a class may be a result of goofing off. For another, it may be their best work. I knew a coach once that sat a kid down for a couple of games, not because he was failing, but because the kids teacher reported that the kid wasn't working at close to his potential. That is the way it should work.

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Are there any schools that still have a level of conduct needed to be eligible? When I played in high school, if you had 25% of your conduct grade as unsatisfactory, you were ineligible for that weeks activities.

Yes, at Dixie if you have a detention or any such problem you are inelligible as well. I know of a few players in the past that have sat for such reasons.

OK then, go on to the next part...

 

If sports DOES motivate the student-athlete to "pass" his schoolwork at (very) minimum levels, why should it not "motivate" him to get a "C" average ?!? (the grade level that could actually be useful to the student)

 

Actually, I mistook several of your posts. I'm now in line and I agree that student-athletes should be required to have a 2.0, heck, even at the middle school level! My mistake! :thumb:

GT, I've been told that the teachers at Lloyd MUST give the kids multiple opportunities each week. In other words, they can't give a test the first week of a semester without giving credit for homework or a quiz, etc. According to this person, your one test scenario should never happen. Not sure if it does or does not though, just what I was told.

I can tell you from experience that this is not true. My middle son, in his freshman year was ineligible for 5 weeks in one class because there were not enough “opportunities” for him to raise one test that he did poorly on. I don't know where your info comes from but it would certainly go against the integrity of most of the teachers that I know at Lloyd.

I can tell you from experience that this is not true. My middle son, in his freshman year was ineligible for 5 weeks in one class because there were not enough “opportunities” for him to raise one test that he did poorly on. I don't know where your info comes from but it would certainly go against the integrity of most of the teachers that I know at Lloyd.

 

Another parent. Again, I wasn't sure if they gave the opportunities but I was told they were supposed to. Obviously not.

I can tell you from experience that this is not true. My middle son, in his freshman year was ineligible for 5 weeks in one class because there were not enough “opportunities” for him to raise one test that he did poorly on. I don't know where your info comes from but it would certainly go against the integrity of most of the teachers that I know at Lloyd.

LLoyd is deffinetly one of the strictest schools when it comes to participating in extra carricular activities. :thumb:

LLoyd is deffinetly one of the strictest schools when it comes to participating in extra carricular activities. :thumb:

 

One of the strictest public schools. Many privates have stricter standards.

 

Unless the standard at Lloyd is you have to have a 2.0. I believe that the standard is just that the student be passing all classes. Correct me if I am mistaken.

There are other factors to be considered. If one kid has a B in remedial math and the other has a D in calculus, should the D be suspended? I think that one consequence of overly inflexible rules is that the kids will "dumb down" their schedule. I think that performance in the classroom is a place where the coach needs to work with the teachers to do what is best for the kid. For one kid a C in a class may be a result of goofing off. For another, it may be their best work. I knew a coach once that sat a kid down for a couple of games, not because he was failing, but because the kids teacher reported that the kid wasn't working at close to his potential. That is the way it should work.

 

While this certainly might be a factor in a student choosing classes, it may come back to bite him in the end. At my school we had to take 2 math classes to graduate. Most took Algebra I and II. Some of the slower kids and others that did not want to go to college took Pre-Algebra I and II which was the equivalent of Algebra I spread out over two years.

 

Well, our quarterback took the pre-algebra route. He signed with a small school and was going to receive a scholarship. Unfortunately for him, they only recognized one year of math and they required 2 years to get into the college. He couldn't go to that college to play ball because of taking the easy route.

 

Any coach that is worth his salary should be coaching these STUDENT-athletes about playing at the college level and advising them of the requirements, both grade and course wise.

 

While on the face it doesn't seem fair that a student can skate by with the easy classes and another struggles in the difficult ones, the real winner will be shown beyond high school. While it would be nice to have eligibility based on effort, that is unrealistic. That is a subjective criteria. KHSAA wants something objective and grades are that measure (though parts of the grades are subjective).

Actually, I mistook several of your posts. I'm now in line and I agree that student-athletes should be required to have a 2.0, heck, even at the middle school level! My mistake! :thumb:

 

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