People in the United States grossly and tragically underestimate the amount of interest in the US for infant adoption. Currently, adoption is a very difficult process in through the channels of the US Dept of Health and Human Services. The government has created an exceptionally difficult process that, depending on the background of the child’s parent(s) can cost anywhere from $5,000-$30,000 when all of the screening, medical expenses, post-birth monitoring and post-adoptive monitoring is included. The adoption process through the US government is so difficult, in fact, that as recent as 2008, there were only a total of 55,000 adoptions that took place through public agencies – and only 1,098 of those adoptions were infant adoptions. That means that in an entire year, the public adoption agencies were only able to place 1,098 infants in the arms of adoptive parents...which is less than one-third of the 3,561 infants that are murdered in the womb on a DAILY basis in the United States. (You can find this information here on the US Health & Human Services website if you’ll scroll down about 3/4 of the way to “How many children were adopted with public agency involvement in FY 2008?”)

 

It’s also a sadly little known fact that the number of families waiting to adopt in the United States hovers somewhere around 2 million at any given time. That number has been relatively fixed for the last 15-20 years. That means that there are usually somewhere around FORTY families looking to adopt for every ONE adoption that takes place through public agencies. That is a truly pathetic figure on the part of the public adoption agencies. Why is the government not looking to push the funding for adoption agencies? Instead of making it cheaper to adopt, they only offer tax credits – tax credits that quite frankly, many adoptive families do not have the know-how to take advantage of. However, there ARE prospective parents out there looking to adopt. They ARE willing to sponsor pregnant mothers without the means to pay for prenatal care. There ARE families looking to adopt boarder babies and babies who come from troubled parents. This is what I try to explain to the young women when I take my turn as a sidewalk counselor in front of Planned Parenthood in Clifton every 3rd Saturday of the month. And let me tell you – these are NOT the facts that the employees at Planned Parenthood want their patients to hear.

 

I have been called a liar, a fraud, a bigot, a hypocrite, and a fanatic by the employees of Planned Parenthood, but not once have I been able to get a single employee of the Elizabeth Campbell Medical & Surgical Center (the term "Medical & Surgical Center" applies very loosely here) stand and discuss the information I present. They don’t realize that my information is all completely factual and comes from the United States government. Instead, they call me a liar and cuss at me as they pass by. The employees there are not looking for a positive option. They are looking to kill unborn children. They may want to educate about safe sex and provide birth control, but even with these things as part of their business practice, I cannot overlook their desire to provide murder for those who don’t know any better than to opt for it.

That is a weak argument.

 

Obviously, especially in this country, if we make something illegal its not going to stop its existence or use among the people. I look at abortions as murder. I put them in that category. We make murder illegal but it is not going to stop it.

 

There would be a lot less abortions if it were illegal.

That seems like a fairy tale view of a complex issue. In your mind, it's nice to believe that if something is illegal there will be less of that, but in actuality it is often the other way. When something becomes illegal, then a black market arises, one that isn't regulated at all and often more easily obtained.

 

And this view is the general view held by the Christian right that if THEY view something as wrong, then the entire nation should consider it wrong. Furthermore, the best way to address that wrong is to make it illegal then turn a blind eye to what happens in the black market. IF that problem gets to large then we will make it social evil #1 and throw a ton of money at it, without once stopping to consider where the REAL problem is. That's the easiest way to sleep well at night, right?

Let me introduce you to Isaiah and Eli. They are both the adopted sons of my cousin Amy and her husband Chris, and they have given me permission to share with you about their family. Isaiah was adopted from Ethiopia after my cousin and her husband found too much trouble in the federal adoption process. They are both graduates of the United States Air Force Academy and both became fighter pilots after graduating. Amy has retired from the Air Force in order to be a stay at home mom, and Chris is a B2 pilot. They have moved to several different bases throughout the US in their 7 years of marriage, and as such, it was deemed by a federal adoption agency that they would have a difficult time being parents, so they were placed on a waiting list. Even with a full-time, stay-at-home mother in waiting, and a completely sufficient income through a good government job, the government told them they were not right to adopt at that time. It was for these reasons that they turned to an international agency and adopted Isaiah.

 

Isaiah

 

Eli, who is almost 7 months old now, was adopted through a private agency in New York City that specializes in adoptions for the children of alcoholic, drug addicted, and otherwise troubled mothers. His biological mother was a bi-polar crack addict, and she had drank heavily throughout the first two months of her pregnancy. He was considered highly at-risk. After once again being put off by federal adoption agencies, Amy and Chris sought out a private agency within the United States this time. They were able to pay for all of Eli’s mother's pre-natal care, and Eli has been a completely happy and healthy baby in their home for almost 6 months now.

 

Eli

 

Both of these children are now perfectly content and cared for, and they have very healthy lives. Both times their parents tried to go through the government agencies, they received nothing but trouble. My family is very grateful to have Isaiah and Eli in our lives, but I can’t help but be troubled when I think of how many babies are murdered daily because the abortion clinics refuse to tell scared and troubled mothers that there are stories and parents like these by the millions – literally MILLIONS – out there and waiting to help them and hoping to adopt their unborn children.

What if you do not look at it at murder? I don't at all.

 

Why not?

Is there any question ?? Of course it is the taking of a human life... Premeditated murder at that...

Yes, there definitley is. I do not believe it is murder.

What if you do not look at it at murder? I don't at all.

 

Ever looked at an ultrasound of a baby in the womb?

That seems like a fairy tale view of a complex issue. In your mind, it's nice to believe that if something is illegal there will be less of that, but in actuality it is often the other way. When something becomes illegal, then a black market arises, one that isn't regulated at all and often more easily obtained.

 

And this view is the general view held by the Christian right that if THEY view something as wrong, then the entire nation should consider it wrong. Furthermore, the best way to address that wrong is to make it illegal then turn a blind eye to what happens in the black market. IF that problem gets to large then we will make it social evil #1 and throw a ton of money at it, without once stopping to consider where the REAL problem is. That's the easiest way to sleep well at night, right?

 

I have to ask. Where/what is the REAL problem?

I do not want even one penny of my income going to support an organization who performs abortions. I do not care if they only murder one baby in ten years it is still murder and I DO NOT want to fund it in any shape, form, or fashion. Crisis pregnancy centers provide help for pregnant mothers and their babies and do not perform abortions; that is a much better choice in my opinion. Government does not need to fund Planned Parenthood or NPR ---- let them get private funding from individuals who want their money to go for these organizations and the liberal philosophies they espouse.

Been gone too long. BGP friend told me that I was missing out on a lively discussion that I am usually right in the middle.

 

I emailed my Congresspeople and Mr Pence about a month ago that I thought his plan was a great idea and I expected my Congresspeople to support!

BTW, Beck says PP is only used by "hookers."

 

I can't imagine why Fox dumped him.

I think many people are under the impression that abortion is a problem that only occurs in the poor and way out-of-sight from them. A lot would gasp if they knew that it's likely someone in their neighborhood has had an abortion.

I'm definitely playing devil's advocate here, but wouldn't that child taken from the parents need to be supported in some form?

 

It would. I would not be against a "loan payback" type program though. One in which the state cared for the child while keeping a running tab. The mother/parents would have to find work, and pay the state back before they could not only have their child back, but even see the child. Those that truly wanted to be parents will find a way to get the child back, those that don't, lose their child for good.

I think many people are under the impression that abortion is a problem that only occurs in the poor and way out-of-sight from them. A lot would gasp if they knew that it's likely someone in their neighborhood has had an abortion.

 

I don't if most believe that or not. Statistics don't support that. The numbers we've seen so far would imply that PP is involved in about 1/4th (330k of 1.2M) of the abortions in this country. I would say it's fairly equal accross income populations. I would say the "justifications" would be a little different.

Ever looked at an ultrasound of a baby in the womb?

Yep.

Yes, there definitley is. I do not believe it is murder.

 

What do you believe it is?

Yep.

 

And you don't believe that is a life?