For 20 bucks an hour I'd dive Dennis Rodman style at any lose ball going away from the court.

 

Go get your stripes, take your test and give it a try!

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They probably enjoy what they do. They probably are fans of the game. I'm curious to see if they would officiate for free. Or how about officiating for 11 cents an hour. That's how much I made coaching if I added up all of the hours I worked.

How about the fact that they (who are paid) expect the players to retrieve all loose balls that bounce away when the players are there to play hard and win?

 

Many officials do scrimmages for free and I know for a fact that 9th region does the Kelsey Sorrell Memorial tournament for free. The summer high school AAU tournament held at the KBA in Lexington has all of its games officiated for free. In fact the official pay to be there. Each do 6 to 8 "free" games over 3 days. So yes they would and do referee for free on occasion.

 

They ask players to retrieve loose balls because every training or camp you go to clinicians talk about dead ball officiating and that eyes should be on the players at all times while they are on the court together. It is especially important in the two man game that one is not chasing a ball and not watching the kids. It is usually during this times that trash talk happens the most and the possibility of retaliation is greater.

Officials are required to do scrimmages in order to be eligible for the post season.

Officials are required to do scrimmages in order to be eligible for the post season.

 

Absolutely not true. The more comments you make the less credible your argument becomes.

Most good coaches have instructed their players to go get the loose balls for the ref during dead ball situations. Referees miss calls, coaches make bad decisions, players miss shots and make turnovers. The human element makes the game interesting. Every team has been on both sides of a bad call, good teams take advantage of a break, bad teams let adversity be their demise. Overall, refs do a very good job. I have been to several games where you don't notice they are there.

Most good coaches have instructed their players to go get the loose balls for the ref during dead ball situations.

 

And as soon as a ref has to go get the ball and misses a dead-ball push/shove/punch the crowd goes nuts as the official "doesn't have control of the game." Most problems start during a dead ball.

Absolutely not true. The more comments you make the less credible your argument becomes.

 

About what? The post season remark? Officials have to have six hours (i think six) of scrimmage in order to work.

 

MadMan help me out. What is the rule exactly?

About what? The post season remark? Officials have to have six hours (i think six) of scrimmage in order to work.

 

MadMan help me out. What is the rule exactly?

 

There is no rule by the KHSAA as to number of scrimmages worked to work post-season. I guess it's possible some individual assocations/regions require it.

I have the highest respect for refs....have some very good friends that are refs...

 

Hey they all make mistakes. I will never forget when my son was umpiring a baseball game. The ball was thrown to first and player tagged. My son called her out. Problem is I could see from my seat that the ball was in the other hand...not the glove. Parents were going wild. After the game he asked me...why all the complaints...player was clearly out. I told him about the ball in the other hand. Clearly he didn't see this and called what he thought was the right call. Was it a game changing play...no...thank goodness.

How about the fact that they (who are paid) expect the players to retrieve all loose balls that bounce away when the players are there to play hard and win?

 

I was thinking about this one at a game tonight. On multiple occasions, I've seen players in pre-game warmup or at halftime, shoot the basketball and return to the bench without retrieving the ball. They just let it bounce where it will and leave it. On many of those occasion, I've seen the officials go and get them and put them on the rack. I've also seen the official move the ball rack from the court to where it goes. None of this is in their job description, which makes me believe those on here that have said the reason why officials have the players retrieve the loose balls during the game is so that their backs are not to the players that they are supposed to be controlling.

Interesting response given your stated location. Only on BGP would a thank you thread give way to bashing officials.

 

It was just a joke because of the analogy. Who said I wasn't bashing plumbers? (Just a joke all you BGPlumbers.)

I do a lot of game films and have had several refs ask me for a copy so they can review their work. These seem like guys that care and want to do the best job they can.

And for the rest of you that want to give it your best. There was an ad in the Ky. Enquirer this morning. go to nrboa.org and click on Become an Official. I guess there are some Job openings?